#41194 [Bgs]: Similar to bug #39781

ID: 41194 Updated by: tony2001@php.net Reported By: bugs dot php at anonymousmail dot net Status: Bogus Bug Type: Reproducible crash Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edit PHP Version: 5.2.1 New Comment: >My point was, if someone wants to install php and they don't know >about this stuff, then they will be UNABLE to use php! These are just warnings and they say "you did not read the docs, go now and read them". >For the longest time I tried to get php to work on my computer. >I gave up many times. Well, you should really start with the docs. >..they usually don't expect to maximize the likelihood that it >will crash for unknown (to them) reasons! Crash? What crash are you talking about? >You can't expect everyone that wishes to learn and use php to be >knowledgeable about dependencies, etc. They just want to LEARN how to >use php, which they can't do if they can't successfully install php! Huh? Dependencies? All these dependencies are described in the docs and we do expect everyone to be able to read. >This is a real bug, because if you install all the extensions, it >crashes and it's reproducible. >If it crashes AND it's reproducible, is that not a bug??? Startup warnings are no crashes and you should start reading the docs before installing anything. Not PHP problem. Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2007-04-26 22:03:43] bugs dot php at anonymousmail dot net Yes, it is apparent that these extensions require third party libraries. Which is exactly why I posted this bug report in the first place. My point was, if someone wants to install php and they don't know about this stuff, then they will be UNABLE to use php! I know this from past experience. For the longest time I tried to get php to work on my computer. I gave up many times. Finally, I figured out what was happening with the extensions! Then I took a great deal of time to document what was happening so you could see exactly what I was talking about. When someone installs software on their computer, they usually want to install everything to maximize the potential of the software. When they do this, they usually don't expect to maximize the likelihood that it will crash for unknown (to them) reasons! You can't expect everyone that wishes to learn and use php to be knowledgeable about dependencies, etc. They just want to LEARN how to use php, which they can't do if they can't successfully install php! You can call this a bogus bug if you want, but it apparently is a real issue for some users. This is a real bug, because if you install all the extensions, it crashes and it's reproducible. If it crashes AND it's reproducible, is that not a bug??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2007-04-26 08:59:52] tony2001@php.net All these extensions require thirtd party libraris which are apparently missing in your system. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2007-04-26 00:25:45] bugs dot php at anonymousmail dot net One small thing I noticed while looking at phpinfo is that the internal value of "include_path" is ".;C:\php5\pear". I installed pear, but the installer didn't change include_path. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2007-04-25 23:57:51] bugs dot php at anonymousmail dot net In the FileAlyzer output, it says: File: C:\Programs\php5\ext\php_netools.dll This is where I had originally installed php. I completely uninstalled php and reinstalled it to the default location thinking it would help, but it didn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2007-04-25 23:44:23] bugs dot php at anonymousmail dot net I forgot to mention that I can use the mysql amd mysqli extensions which enable me to successfully run phpmyadmin. PHP works great on my system until I install one of the extensions listed in the Apache error log which failed to load. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at http://bugs.php.net/41194 -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=41194&edit=1