Bug #18236 Updated: EXACT HTTP POST data access
| From: | hholzgra@php.net | Date: | Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:36:33 +0000 |
| Subject: | Bug #18236 Updated: EXACT HTTP POST data access | ||
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ID: 18236
Updated by: hholzgra@php.net
Reported By: foobardotcom@poczta.onet.pl
-Status: Open
+Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Feature/Change Request
Operating System: Linux cyberhq 2.4.19-pre6 #2 SMP
PHP Version: 4.2.1
New Comment:
we can talk about preserving POST DATA in all cases
but parameter parsing behaviour will definetly stay
as it is
backwards compatibility alone would justify this
there is nothing magic about the parameter parser,
it assigns values to variables, and if a query string
has multiple assignments to the same parameter name then the last one
wins, thats it
*if* browsers would tell what field type input came from we could talk
about automaticly creating arrays for SELECT MULTIPLE and CHECKBOX
groups, but fact is that they don't
and making everything an array is simply not an option
we have even found out that we are not even violating
HTML or XHTML standards with our naming conventions
(although we believed that for quite some time),
so the only real reason for changing things has gone
the advantage of PHP is exactly that you *don't* have
to parse query strings or post data yourself,
hey, we even transparently parse different post encodings for you, like
multipart/form-data for file uploads or application/vnd.fdf for form
data sent by acrobat reader
(and you can register even more POST data handlers based on
Content-Types on the C extension levels)
Btw: MAX_UPLOAD_SIZE is a broswer thingy and we clearly document this
in the "file upload" feature section in our manual
Previous Comments:
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[2002-07-12 07:26:28] foobardotcom@poczta.onet.pl
HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA is set only when ***file*** is uploaded or somthing
like that. There is no HTTP_RAW_POST_DATA if method is POST and enctype
is standard - "application/x-www-form-urlencoded". I'm looking for
query string (without `?' at the beginning) that is passed after HTTP
request header when POST method is used.
> btw: please define "behave correct on select multiple"
I mean PHP should "parse" select multiple results correctly, because
now it isn't, for example:
GET /foo.php?bar=dot&bar=com HTTP/1.0
In PHP sciript, there's only last value: $_GET["bar"] is "com". $_GET
should look as below:
array(
"bar" => array(
0 => "dot",
1 => "com"
)
);
...IMO of course. I tought about creating array from EVERY VARIABLE
that is passed, so request:
GET /foo.php?a=b HTTP/1.0
should (I say again - IMO) give $_GET array looking like that:
array(
"a" => array(
0 => "b"
)
);
...people who like "easy programming" will use some custom functions to
make access more simple, the functions like that:
function makeEasierAccessToRequestArray($arr) {
foreach($arr as $key => $arrOfVals) {
if (sizeof($arrOfVals) === 1) {
$arr[$key] = $arrOfVals[0];
}
}
return $arr;
}
$GLOBALS["_MYGET"] = makeEasierAccessToRequestArray($_GET);
Next thing:
> After (...) it looks like the only suitable alternative
> syntax would be
> array-key- = value
> or
> array_key_ = value
> i.e. substituting a hyphen or an underscore for the
> square brackets. (...)
Why PHP developers are so inclined to create MAGIC BEHAVIOURS and
PHP-ONLY EXCEPTIONS (for example MAX_FILE_SIZE or arr[] multiple
values)?
I'm against MAGIC RULES so if someone will tell me, that he has created
forms making output like this:
GET /foo.php?arr[0][0]=foo&arr[0][1]=bar&arr[1][0]=dot&arr[1][1]=com
HTTP/1.0
and he like to use arrays obtained from (*fucked*, being plainspoken)
query-string parser from PHP, WHY HE DON'T CREATE HIS OWN LIBRARY, THAT
CAN PARSE QUERY STRING AS ABOVE FOR HIS EASY USE? I see no problem:
<?php
function escaper($regs) {
return '$GLOBALS["GET"]["' . addslashes($regs[1]) . '"]
' .
$regs[2] . ' "' . addslashes($regs[3]) . '";';
}
eval(preg_replace_callback("/([^=]+)(=)([^&]*)/", "escaper",
$QUERY_STRING));
// it works like that: query string == "a=b",
// then it evals code: $GLOBALS["GET"]["a"] = "b";
// it use escaped vals, so there's no possibility
// to call function within query string or to make
// parse error, for example specyfying query string
// like that: `"=foo', becuase code generated then
// will look like that: $GLOBALS["GET"]["\""] = "foo";
?>
Yes, and we're in the same place. WHAT WITH POST'ED VALS?! EXACTLY! If
$_SERVER["SERVER_METHOD"] will be "POST" there will be no possibility
to parse it manually, will the best will in the world! Why? Because
there is no possibility to access HTTP-Request data RAWLY!
IMHO language should be clean and logical, without ANY EXCEPTIONS AND
MAGIC BEHAVIOURS. What PHP programmer will do, it's his business, not
EVERYONE WHO WANT TO USE PHP.
So, after my long lecture I await, there SHOULD NOT be alternative to
syntax to `arr[]', because it would be MAGIC BEHAVIOUR. If someone will
send request:
GET /foo.php?array-key-=value&multi=1&multi=2 HTTP/1.0
$_GET should look like that:
array(
"array-key-" => "value",
"multi" => array(
0 => "1",
1 => "2"
)
);
I propose this way instead of creating every value multiple (I wrote
about it before), becuase THIS LAST METHOD will not collide with every
PHP-programmer habits.
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[2002-07-09 10:19:02] m.ford@lmu.ac.uk
Damn, you're right!
That'll teach me to read specs more closely (and not to believe
everything everyone tells me!!).
OK, forget this one for me -- but how about closing or won't-fix-ing
all those open feature requests?
Cheers and sorry for the bother!
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[2002-07-09 10:02:58] derick@php.net
Or with XHTML 1.1:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_extformsmodule
NAME = CDATA here too
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[2002-07-09 09:59:44] sesser@php.net
here is the url:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.4
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[2002-07-09 09:57:00] sesser@php.net
The claim that [] violates html 4.0 is simply wrong.
The html 4.0 specification clearly states that the name
attribute for the input tag is of the type CDATA and not
of type ID/NAME.
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