Bug #74860 [Com]: Uncaught exceptions not being formatted properly when error_log set to "syslog"

Edit report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=74860&edit=1 ID: 74860 Comment by: spam2 at rhsoft dot net Reported by: philipp at redfish-solutions dot com Summary: Uncaught exceptions not being formatted properly when error_log set to "syslog" Status: Open Type: Bug Package: Output Control Operating System: linux 4.9.30 PHP Version: 7.1.6 Block user comment: N Private report: N New Comment: what is your problem? i just pointed out that control chars has to be filtered at a central point so that this affects syslog(), error_log(), trigger_error() and what not which leads in producing logfiles - not more and not less - dunno why you needed to make dumb answers like "why would anyone execute logfiles" and argue around at all currently it just sucks that you need to filter logoutput in userland and in case of trigger_error have no way to don't break the html page by not use htmlentities() while at the same time they appear in the logfiles where nobody beeds them so what is my point? that currently the whole error handling / logging is a complete mess Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2017-08-07 03:57:26] philipp at redfish-solutions dot com > yes, by simply sanitize *everything* passed to whatever function if it can contain untrusted > input and log output *clearly* falls in that scope You said to fix php_syslog(). I pointed out that this was a #define to syslog(). I *am* fixing the way we call syslog. Perhaps look at the patch first before telling me how it falls short. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2017-08-05 03:59:55] spam2 at rhsoft dot net > So how would I fix that? by simply sanitize the arguments passed to external libraries > There's a limited amount of bandwidth to secure systems, > and you need to expend your energy and resources wisely yes, by< simply sanitize *everything* passed to whatever function if it can contain untrusted input and log output *clearly* falls in that scope ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2017-08-05 00:02:28] philipp at redfish-solutions dot com > THAT IS HOW SECURITY WORKS and not by a sloppy "there should not happen something > bad" idiot attitude It's not sloppy. It's realistic. I've literally fixed thousands of potential exploits in my lifetime. At one point, I was doing it full-time. There's a limited amount of bandwidth to secure systems, and you need to expend your energy and resources wisely. There are an infinite number of files which could theoretically have control characters dumped into them via an equally infinite number of vectors. They can't all be fixed. What can be fixed is the singular vulnerability in Xterm. You also can't put a bandaid over the symptom while calling the cause simultaneously fixed. That's not security. That self-delusion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2017-08-04 22:05:03] philipp at redfish-solutions dot com > The fix is in the wrong place. The fix should be to modify the php_syslog function to conform > with expectations. I believe a more robust fix would be preferable ... You know that there is no actual function called php_syslog(), right? And that it's a macro which either points to std_syslog() or else to syslog() directly. And both of those are in external libraries. So how would I fix that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2017-08-04 21:58:34] spam2 at rhsoft dot net GDAMNED:it does not matter where the vulnerability is - make sure that f***g Logfiles don't contain control chars at all - THAT IS HOW SECURITY WORKS and not by a sloppy "there should not happen something bad" idiot attitude ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=74860 -- Edit this bug report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=74860&edit=1