Req #77378 [Opn]: Default to short_open_tags = false

From: Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:41:56 +0000
Subject: Req #77378 [Opn]: Default to short_open_tags = false
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 ID:                 77378
 User updated by:    olafvdspek at gmail dot com
 Reported by:        olafvdspek at gmail dot com
 Summary:            Default to short_open_tags = false
 Status:             Open
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            *General Issues
 PHP Version:        All
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

> You can have XML files with PHP, for instance.

It's 2021, who's using XML? ;)
Surely it's possible to support both short open tags and XML..

But if somehow short open tags are deprecated / not recommended, IMO PHP should have an (optional?)
deprecation warning when you're still using them.


Previous Comments:
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[2021-03-04 12:27:51] cmb@php.net

>  what's the benefit of short_open_tags = false?

You can have XML files with PHP, for instance.

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[2020-11-23 09:37:35] olafvdspek at gmail dot com

Thinking about this.. what's the benefit of short_open_tags = false?

Maybe the default should be short_open_tags = true instead?
If short open tags are bad, what about a run-time warning for them?

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[2019-01-02 09:27:51] nikic@php.net

@olafvdspek It only changes the default. The ini setting still wins in the end.

I've sent a mail to internals regarding this issue: https://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=154642087106001

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[2019-01-02 09:22:02] olafvdspek at gmail dot com

Does --disable-short-tags 'only' change the default or does it disable short tags
unconditionally, even if short_open_tags = true in the .ini?

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[2019-01-02 09:16:38] nikic@php.net

The summarize the current situation, because it's rather odd:

 * In both php.ini-production and php.ini-development short_open_tag is off.
 * The default value (without ini) is short_open_tag=on *unless* --disable-short-tags has been
specified during ./configure. On Windows there doesn't seem to be an equivalent for
--disable-short-tags, so on Windows the default is always on.

I agree that the current situation is quite odd. It would probably make sense to make
short_open_tag=off the default and convert --disable-short-tags into --enable-short-tags for people
who would like to influence the default.

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