Bug #16838 Updated: PHP short_open_tags and <?xml .. ?>

ID: 16838 Updated by: sniper@php.net Reported By: sloetz@web.de Status: Analyzed Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem Operating System: all PHP Version: 4.2.0 New Comment: Only good solution is to get rid of the short tags. It only saves you 3 keystrokes.. Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2002-04-26 11:41:25] sniper@php.net Only good solution is to get rid of the short tags. It only saves you 3 keystrokes.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2002-04-26 11:10:08] hholzgra@php.net people have been warned for *ages* now that short tags are *not* xml-compliant, so everybody still using them should be blamed for doing so and not benn supported in continuing using bad style ... instead of adding extra magic i'd suggest to emmit warnings for uses of '<?' even if short_tags are enabled ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2002-04-26 06:28:43] sloetz@web.de Hi, turning off short tags is not a real solution as long as PHP offically supports them. There are tons of code out there using short tags and there will be even more new code with short tags if this feature will not be abolished. Furthermore, and I have to repeat this, there is huge group of PHP users that has no access to the php.ini settings (e.g. mod_php with safe_mode in a shared hosting environment). Should these users be forced to modify third-party code over and over again because the developers of this code insist on (offically supported) short tags? For companies and groups that offer web hosting services this is simply not viable. You can't over web hosting with mutual exclusion of XHTML and PHP. And I also have to stress that again: PHP, a *hypertext preprocessor*, is not able to parse standard compliant XHTML! I think there are only two solutions: Doing it the hard way by wholly removing short tags or changing PHP in a way that allows the usage of XHTML and short tags. A third approach to this problem is not a real solution but an option for the user, namely switching to another scripting language. Sascha ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2002-04-26 05:51:35] derick@php.net Then just turn off short-tags. And there won't be any change in this, as: 1. It came up numerous times on php-dev 2. It makes little sense Derick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2002-04-26 05:45:45] icarus@dabo.de Hi! I find this an extremly annoying behaviour, too. Since you can use PHP to parse every file with nearly no loss of performance (whether it contains PHP code or not) and only when it contains PHP-code it would be really parsed through the PHP-parser. To my optinion it is often done that you simply let php parse every html-file, so the visitor cannot see if its generated dynamically or static. Since you will have pages that are _really_ static you would have to add php-code to simply add this "<?xml ..." which would cost much performance. Bye! Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at http://bugs.php.net/16838 -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=16838&edit=1