RE: [PHP-DB] OT - Re: [PHP-DB] Re: web hosting with PHP

I realize that this is what it says in small print, but they advertise unlimited. I realize the purpose behind it, but I think it's both purposely misleading and I still believe that it is untrue, despite the wording in their terms and conditions. Seems like "terms and conditions" is a page used just to get away with little white lies so companies can get more customers they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. In my opinion, a good hosting company wouldn't have to advertise unlimited. Perhaps advertise "as much as needed" or something, but even then, you're not providing a solid line. I wouldn't want to be JoeBlow.com, get a million subscribers, and then suddenly find out that I really don't have unlimited space and bandwidth after all. It wouldn't constitute misuse of the servers - you would be rightly using those resources. However, you would probably be "monopolizing" on the resources, so who knows what would happen. Maybe it's just me, but I think that having a set limit and then offering to extend the limit if needed for free is much MUCH better and more reliable than "unlimited." I don't like little white lies - they make me think, "I wonder what else isn't really the way it is advertised?" - Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Torrent [mailto:torrent@home-address.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:08 AM To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] OT - Re: [PHP-DB] Re: web hosting with PHP Alternatively, you just need to read the terms and conditions where you will usually see that "unlimited" is actually "limited" by some safeguard, for example, here's Hostonce's policy "In rare cases, HostOnce.com may find a customer to be using server resources to such an extent that he or she may jeopardize server performance and resources for other customers. In such instances, HostOnce.com reserves the right to impose the High Resource User Policy for the consideration of all customers" and "When a website is found to be monopolizing the resources available HostOnce.com reserves the right to suspend that site immediately. This policy is only implemented in extreme circumstances and is intended to prevent the misuse of our servers" What this effectively means is that for the vast majority of users who host with them, they will host on what is effectively an unlimited diskspace and bandwdith server or servers. However, at least with these t&c's in place you know you are afforded some protection from a hostee who sucks up all the bandwidth and storage space. So, while I agree with the sentiment behind your words, I'm not convinced it's quite as black & white as perhaps you portray. Sounds like you too have found a good hosting company. -torrent "Jonathan Hilgeman" <JHilgeman@ecx.com> wrote in message news:5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F007@mailsvr.ecx.com... > I would be very wary of any hosts promising unlimited bandwidth or unlimited > space. It's usually a sign that they're very new or unprepared to handle > serious sites, probably a 1-3 man team. Any host that has been in business > for a while and has promising service will usually cap off the space and > bandwidth for the sake of fairness to their customers. Once they realize > they can't really offer all that, the host will usually cut back and cap it > off, and then the customers get pissed because the host can't stand up to > its original promises. Then the host gets in trouble because it promised > services that it cannot deliver, and legal issues ensue. I've worked for a > company like this before - it's only a matter of time. > > - ON THE OTHER HAND - > > I currently host with Aletia.com - they've given me the best of support. I > know they are currently a 6-person team, which is about right for the number > of servers they have, and I know they are expanding right now. Not sure how > much, but I've been with them since mid-July this year, and I've been > getting excellent and personal support, as well as a good deal with hosting. > I pay $10 a month and get 200 megs of space, 10 gigs of bandwidth, 10 > subdomains, 10 mysql databases, php4, multi-hosting capabilities (so I can > host up to 3 extra domains/sites on one account for free. Total of 4 domain > sites for $10 per month - kinda like sharing minutes on a cell phone). > They've got active community forums (aletiaforums.com), and everything. the > only thing they don't have yet is a referrals system, but just in case you > sign up with them because of this e-mail, put "Referred by SiteCreative.com" > in the comments. You never know if they'll come up with one. > > - Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Torrent [mailto:torrent@home-address.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:38 AM > To: php-db@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DB] Re: web hosting with PHP > > > I'm with hostonce and have had no problems. > $4.95 per month gives you: > > - php > - MySQL > - SSL > - CGI scripts plus bin > - unlimited disk space > - unlimited bandwidth > - plus all the other standard stuff. > > Find them at www.hostonce.com > > Failing that why don't you go to www.hostsearch.com , enter your preferences > and let them show you a list of all hosting companies that fulfil your > requirements. You can then find read reviews entered by people who have > taken out a subscription with any of them. > > Torrent > > > "Kirill Safarov" <kasafarov@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:20011105172500.99941.qmail@pb1.pair.com... > > I know this question probably has been asked too many times, but can > anyone > > suggest a good and reliable web host that supports PHP and MySQL > > (preferrably relatively inexpensive). > > > > I've had some bad luck with a couple of web hosts, so I wanted to ask if > > someone could recommend a company that knows what it's doing. > > > > Thanks, > > Kirill :) > > > > > > > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-db-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-db-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-db-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-db-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net