RE: [PHP-DB] collaborating on a document

Ofcourse then everyone has to have Adobe installed, which is probably less likely then having javascript enabled. On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 10:39, Hutchins, Richard wrote: Actually, Adobe 5.0 implemented on a server in Assembled or Integrated (their words, not mine) configuration DOES allow for real-time document collaboration. Whether this solution would actually solve the problem is determined by the requirements of the collaboration environment. If you're thinking Acrobat 4.0, you're absolutely right. Real-time collaboration is, for all practical purposes, non-existent. I'm not going to get into any further debate because it's off topic and all of the information is available on Adobe.com, specifically in the following links: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acr05_review_wp.pdf and, more generally, http://www.adobe.com/acrofamily/collaboration.html. In regards to actually implementing a solution using JS, yes can work, but you're walking what can be a tight rope on client-side configuration. Some of the standard issues are: 1. You have to make sure your users all have JS enabled or your app won't work. 2. You'll have to write cross-browser compatible code back to v. 4.0 browsers as a standard. 3. Refreshing a screen every 30 seconds is going to really tick off users that don't have DSL or better connections. These issues are certainly not insurmountable. All of the above concerns can be alleviated, if not eliminated, if you're going to implement on an intranet where you have control over what clients are used. But in the WWW arena, you just don't know what clients are going to be used. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Voigt [mailto:adam@cryptocomm.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:25 AM To: j.baumgartner@itp-europe.com Cc: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] collaborating on a document Riiiiiiiiiiight, anyway, since Adobe Acrobat is the worst possible answer for updating in real time (and completely wouldn't work), I would say, yes, two frames should work, but you might even want a third (hidden) at the bottom that never stops executing, just pulling entry's out when new ones are added, and use javascript to add them to the right frames with the ideas. On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 10:16, Hutchins, Richard wrote: 1. This question has nothing to do with PHP or databases. 2. Adobe already thought of it: Adobe Acrobat 5.0. > -----Original Message----- > From: Baumgartner Jeffrey [mailto:j.baumgartner@itp-europe.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:13 AM > To: php-db@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DB] collaborating on a document > > > I'm thinking about making a little tool where people can > contribute ideas in > real time. Thus far, the best way I can see to do this is via 2 frames > > Frame 1: for entering data - which is inserted into a table. > > Frame 2: would select from the table. It would also refresh > frequently - > say every 30 seconds. > > But perhaps you have a more elegant solution? > > Thanks, > > Jeffrey Baumgartner > > eBusiness Consultant - ITP Europe > http://www.itp-europe.com > j.baumgartner@itp-europe.com > +32 2 721 51 00 > > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Adam Voigt (adam@cryptocomm.com) The Cryptocomm Group My GPG Key: http://64.238.252.49:8080/adam_at_cryptocomm.asc -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Adam Voigt (adam@cryptocomm.com) The Cryptocomm Group My GPG Key: http://64.238.252.49:8080/adam_at_cryptocomm.asc

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