sloppy application code from poor programmers ?

Hi, PHP programmers have you seen this ? http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=MySQL+toy+marston I think I need something more than PHP in order to solve any database problem. Sure we can use C++ for accessing MySQL, but my question is can all this be done, only with PHP ? Shifting relational logic from MySQL to PHP ? I think it must be an exaggeration. Anyway the PHP coding presented here http://www.tonymarston.co.uk/php-mysql/index.html is crisp and helpful. Especially the article about many to many relationships. If this is true we never need any newer versions of MySQL. PHP can do it as well. Yours Sincerely Morten Gulbrandsen ======== http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=MySQL+toy+marston Subject: Re: Can MySQL table handle 3 million+ entries? Newsgroups: comp.lang.php Date: 2003-04-11 15:20:10 PST MySQL is NOT a toy database - it is far superior to many I have used in my long career. The lack of constraints is NOT a weakness. It is eminently possible to create reliable applications without the need for database constraints - I should know because I have designed and built many applications that did not use database constraints (mainly because they were not available). Developers only rely on database constraints to circumvent their sloppy code. Anything that can be done within the database can also be done within application code. I have seen what happens when poor programmers try to shift logic from their code into the database - they get it wrong and then blame the database for their incompetence. I am used to designing and building applications without relying on database 'features', so I write my code accordingly. It also means that the logic is maintained in one place and not it bits and pieces here and there. Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.co.uk/php-mysql/index.html