Re: php 4.1 or php 5.0

Well, I think to start with someone or multiple people need to take a look at the PHP code and figure out just exactly what we want to do to it. I can help out. I am pretty sure that Daniel Beckham will as well. As far as I know, we want to: 1. convert all function names to a standard naming convention. 2. convert all function params to a standard order. 3. get rid of old aliased functions. 4. Make sure all return codes are consistent. Some are 1 or 0 some are true or false. What else is there? I am sure there is more. Brian Moon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dealnews.com, Inc. Makers of dealnews, dealmac http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi Gutmans" <andi@zend.com> To: <phil@dialsolutions.co.uk>; "Brian Moon" <brianm@dealnews.com>; "php developers" <php-dev@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 4.1 or php 5.0 > I think both for Zend 2 and for the cleanup version of PHP (if they happen > at the same time or not) it is important to come up with how to do the > development. We can either work in a branch or create a new CVS tree. > They both have their pros & cons, but especially for the PHP CVS which is a > moving target it's going to be hard to make a cleanup and keep the patches > in sync with the "being cleaned" version. It'll be easier for Zend because > it is very stable and doesn't change very much. > Any ideas? > > Andi > > At 05:27 PM 7/4/2001 +0100, Phil Driscoll wrote: > >On Wednesday 04 July 2001 17:12, Brian Moon wrote: > > > FWIW, I am +1 on PHP5. There are a lot of things in the language that need > > > to be cleaned up. People here more familiar with other closed languages > > > have gotten confused about things like case, underscores, haystack and > > > needle, the way some array functions return an array and some modify the > > > passed array. There is just a lot of stuff like that. > > > > > >I'm all for making the radical changes at 5.0, its just that it seems like > >Zeev is keen on a shortish timeframe for the new engine, whereas I suspect > >that tidying up the language will take quite a bit longer. > > > >FWIW my vote is for us to make a concerted start on tidying the language with > >a realistic time frame of <guess> 1 year. If the new Zend engine is going to > >be ready much sooner than that, and it will only affect OO stuff and the > >business of accessing individual characters in strings, then that change > >should be to 4.1. If the engine is going to take a year, then we'll have a > >big pile of stuff to launch as 5.0 > > > >Cheers > >-- > >Phil Driscoll > > > >-- > >PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-dev-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > >For additional commands, e-mail: php-dev-help@lists.php.net > >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > >