Re: [Zend Engine 2] Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 4.1 or php 5.0

This discussion should take place on php-dev@lists.php.net. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 derick@php.net wrote: > > >I would go for PHP5, however that means Zeev will commit suicide... > > Why not jump over numbers 5 & 6 and call it PHP 7 ? :) > Or do the Microsoft: PHP 2001 (j/k) > > >anyway, this way we can also break a lot of other things and make the > >language clean. > > I can't wait.. >:-) > > >I'm also in favor of creating a new branch because this way nothing can be > >messed up on the PHP4 branches and we can do some really experimental > >things with it too. > > If the goal is 4.1, branch should be enough. If PHP 5/6/7, then it > should be separate cvs module, IMO. > > btw. To get rid of some of the unmaintained extensions we should have > some directory for them? Something like /old /deprecated /unmaintained ? > > --Jani > > > >> >patches in sync with the "being cleaned" version. It'll be easier > >> >for Zend > >> >because it is very stable and doesn't change very much. > >> >Any ideas? > >> > > >> >Andi > >> > > >> >At 05:27 PM 7/4/2001 +0100, Phil Driscoll wrote: > >> >>On Wednesday 04 July 2001 17:12, Brian Moon wrote: > >> >> > FWIW, I am +1 on PHP5. There are a lot of things in the language that > >> >> need > >> >> > to be cleaned up. People here more familiar with other closed languages > >> >> > have gotten confused about things like case, underscores, haystack and > >> >> > needle, the way some array functions return an array and some modify the > >> >> > passed array. There is just a lot of stuff like that. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>I'm all for making the radical changes at 5.0, its just that it seems > >> >>like > >> >>Zeev is keen on a shortish timeframe for the new engine, whereas I suspect > >> >>that tidying up the language will take quite a bit longer. > >> >> > >> >>FWIW my vote is for us to make a concerted start on tidying the language with > >> >>a realistic time frame of <guess> 1 year. If the new Zend engine is > >> >>going to > >> >>be ready much sooner than that, and it will only affect OO stuff and the > >> >>business of accessing individual characters in strings, then that change > >> >>should be to 4.1. If the engine is going to take a year, then we'll have > >> >>a > >> >>big pile of stuff to launch as 5.0 > >> >> > >> >>Cheers > >> >>-- > >> >>Phil Driscoll > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >>PHP Development Mailing List > >> >><http://www.php.net/> > >> >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-dev-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > >> >>For additional commands, e-mail: php-dev-help@lists.php.net > >> >>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/ٞ�$��5 > >> > ��`��> > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-dev-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > >> >For additional commands, e-mail: php-dev-help@lists.php.net > >> >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > >> > > > >Derick Rethans > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PHP: Scripting the Web - www.php.net - derick@php.net > > SRM: Site Resource Manager - www.vl-srm.net > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - Sascha Experience IRCG http://schumann.cx/ http://schumann.cx/ircg