Re: SOAP and CORBA

Hello, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > At 12:44 AM 1/2/2002 +0000, Nick Loman wrote: > > >Hello PHP developers, > > > >Interesting to think about what might make a nice foundation technology > >for all the exciting potential of PHP5. SOAP is obviously an important > >technology for websites in the future. But given that (I guess) most of us > >are not really that keen to follow in the nervous footsteps of Microsoft, > >and given that XML brings me out in a horrible rash, why don't we think > >about CORBA as a fundamental PHP technology? > > > >CORBA is now finally in a state where people can actually use it > >without running away screaming. There are now enough free implementations > >on enough platforms to enable mainstream PHP support. David Eriksson > >has done some nice stuff with Universe/Satellite, but I don't think PHP's > >CORBA support is currentl "plug n' go" enough to really be capitalised on > >(it currently relies on a fair amount of knowledge of CORBA). > > > >What would be fantastic is a situation where newbie PHP coders feel > >confident enough to use CORBA services exposed to the Internet (not many > >exist at the moment, the "classic" example is Random.org but this > >could change). If it was easy enough to start interacting with ORBs > >exposed to the 'Net, and it was easy enough for PHP developers to write > >their own net-facing ORBs, we could potentially be facing an interesting > >paradigm shift whereby PHP users are exposing their interesting objects > >(which may, e.g. provide access to databases, content) to the 'net. Much > >sexier than say RDF, no? > > > >If anyone would like to help me in my quest to make CORBA more mainstream > >(CORBA isn't really scary, at its most basic its just cross-platform > >remote procedure calls) I would love to work with you. > > > >All the best for 2002 everyone, > > We are going to try to improve the object overloading in ZE2 so I suggest > not working on this before we see what we can come up with. Basically we > are just trying to make it easier for people to overload objects from C and > make it a bit more powerful. > In the meanwhile you can still play around with different Corba > implementations and choose how you're going to do it but I suggest waiting > because it'll hopefully save you lots of headaches. Yes, adding and maintaining static CORBA interfaces is an hell to deal with IDL compilers and stuff, but I think dynamic invocation fits well with the nature of PHP. You may want to talk with Lukas Smith and Gavin Sherry as I heard them talking about adding some kind of CORBA support to PHP. Regards, Manuel Lemos