Hello,
George Schlossnagle wrote:
APC supports compiled code in the fashion I think you're looking for.
There's a README.compiler in the distribution tar ball.
I know, I use APC in MMAP mode and I noticed that it outputs PHP
compiled code for each script to disk. That is precisely what is
necessary. What is needed that is we can make it work officially as a
compiler, not just as a cache engines that may or may not output
compiled files to the disk.
So, would you be interested in help to add the necessary glue to make it
work officially also as a compiler, if you do not intend to do it
yourself.
How Open Source is APC? Do you take volunteers help (patches, hackers
with CVS accounts, bug reports, etc..)?
APC is completely open-source (release under QPL). Patches are awesome. CVS write-access is only for maintainers at the moment (and anon cvs to the world). There's noo hard-and-fast rule, but the base guideline for maintainer status is contribution fixes/patches of consistent merit and of more than 10% of the code base.
I looked at all free cache engines (PHPA, APC, Bware). PHPA seems to be
going to non-Open Source route (no code available for everybody). Bware
people are nice and are willing to cooperate even if they don't have
much time. APC, I could not realize how alive the the project is. Do you
actively work on it or are you too busy?
I haven't been very active since October (wish I could say it was a vacation, but alas, it was just work). In about 3 weeks, I should have much much more free time and hopefully be able to get back to being very active in apc.
Regards,
Manuel LEmos
George
On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 10:06 PM, Manuel Lemos wrote:
Hello,
Alain Samoun wrote:
Manuel:
In all fairness to the Zend people, you can get the compiler for
$600/year
or $50 per month.
The unlimited Zend Encoder Unlimited costs $2400. Actually, I don't see
any other Zend Encoder purchase option.
Anyway, like a lot of other PHP users, I am not interested in expensive
commercial solutions, even less those that tie me to those products
indefinetly. If people want to pay such fees to be fair to Zend or just
to believe that what they got is good because it costed a lot of money,
fine it is their problem. Now, it is true that a lot of people choose
PHP because it is a free and easy solution for their developments but
inlike with other languages there is no way to distribute a closed
source version of their software.
That is the proposal. This is about PHP, not Zend Encoder or comercial
solutions. If people wanted to use Zend Encoder or any other commercial
solutions, this thread would not have been even started.
If it still look too expansive to you, compared to the free perl
compiler,
there is also a perl compiler that costs $5,000...
Alain, be serious, Java compilers cost nothing. I know for a fact that a
lot of people are discarding PHP because there is not an officially
supported and free solution to compiler and distribute PHP application
binaries when in Java and other languages that is a natural thing.
This means that people drop PHP when they realize that it isn't as easy
to protect their code to sell their applications. Until PHP developers
realize that it is important to make it easy for PHP users to sell their
applications, PHP will be seen as a less appealing solution.
Also, someone may be able to reverse the PHP code to C and create an
exe
with it (like Perl) . And last, but maybe the future: Web Services with
SOAP?
It should be not be that hard. There are Java bytecode to C converters,
it should not be hard to make Zend bytecode to C conversion.
Regards,
Manuel Lemos
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