RE: [PHP-DEV] Feature request -- feedback welcomed.

I agree Regards, Lukas Smith smith@dybnet.de _______________________________ DybNet Internet Solutions GbR Reuchlinstr. 10-11 Gebäude 4 1.OG Raum 6 (4.1.6) 10553 Berlin Germany Tel. : +49 30 83 22 50 00 Fax : +49 30 83 22 50 07 www.dybnet.de info@dybnet.de > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamim Islam [mailto:shamim@poetryunlimited.com] > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:48 PM > To: Lamont R. Peterson; php-dev@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature request -- feedback welcomed. > > On the surface, it sounds like a good idea but underneath the semantic > change is > fraught with logical inconsistencies. > > A method is specifically a function declared within a class context. A > static > method is a static function declared within a class context. > > A method by itself has no meaning and adds yet another type of declaration > that > someone would have to learn to debug code that used the 'method' > declaration > instead of the 'function' declaration. > > From a semantic point of view, using 'function' visually demarcates the > beginning > of an series of operations. As such, scrolling through a class with many > 'method's > interspersed with 'function' declarations can get messy. > > If on the other hand, 'method' had some specific meaning outside of the > class > context, it would make sense to incorporate it into the lexer. > > The same argument applies to the use of 'member'. These are semantic > constructs, > not syntactic constructs, and as such only have value when there is > additional > meaning inherent in their use. > > Syntactic constructs for an ubiquitous language like PHP should be simple > and > uniform with little or no gobbledygook like some other languages which > shall remain > nameless (and no I'm not thinking of smalltalk.). > > PHP should look like PHP. PHP should not look like smalltalk. It's like > saying we > should all write C++ in Delphi or write Perl in Python. > > Let's keep it simple and stick with the 'function' and 'var' declarations > unless > there is a need for a separate syntactic construct that has value outside > of a > class context. > > My two cents. > > Any other takers? > > Shamim Islam > BA BSc > > Lamont R. Peterson (lrp@xmission.com) wrote*: > > > >All: > > > >I can't hardly wait for PHP 4.3 (Zend 2.0) to hit the streets. I can't > >express how anxiously I've been waiting for the class model to be > reworked. > >Great job! > > > >I would, however, like to see a couple of simple additions to the planned > >release (if these are already coming, then I just haven't seen is talked > >about anywhere). I would love to have "method" as an alias for > "function" > >and "member" as an alias for "var". These could be just plain aliases, > but > >it would be nice if these aliases were only valid within a class > definition. > > > >I would love to hear peoples thoughts on this one. Where I work, the > kind of > >software we write on PHP, it only makes sense to use objects. However, > we > >do mix in plain functions liberally when there is no need for the > features of > >an object. I've worked this way with PHP ever since 4.0.0 was released. > > > > > > > -- > PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php