Re: PHP on .NET DLR

PHP has historically never chased fads. We wait and see which platforms win, and we end up on those simply because we need PHP on those platforms. When/if Silverlight becomes a viable platform for real large-scale deployment, PHP will be on it. Many PHP sites are small, but most strive to be the next Yahoo/Facebook/Technorati/Vonage etc. and at this point I see no sign of any of these major players doing anything at all with Silverlight. M$ has a major hurdle on their hands. I'm not particularly anti-M$, and I hope they do somehow come up with a way to make it easy to deploy, manage and monitor in a cost-effective way a colo full of machines that can run a Silverlight application that takes a billion hits a day. Most contributors to the PHP project work on realworld applications. We are a very pragmatic bunch. We build what we need. We don't build what we think people might need in 3 years if the stars align correctly. This approach has worked extremely well for 12 years now. Right now nobody working on PHP needs Silverlight, nor has there been a significant level of interest in it from PHP users. Perhaps we all have our heads in the sand and Silverlight will stomp all over everything else. Frankly I am seeing more interest in Adobe Air from where I sit here in Silicon Valley working for the highest-trafficed web site in the world. Yet we still deploy more freebsd/linux servers with Apache and PHP than anything else and that won't change for years to come. -Rasmus K T Ligesh wrote: > Hi, > > So that's it? 'Nobody cares' (tm)? 'You can switch to Ruby if you want > to, and nobody's stopping you'? Or am I on the wrong list? > > Does the PHP community have any interest in PHP on DLR? IronRuby is going to be hosted on > RubyForge, so it is going to be a community effort ultimately, and that's one of the things > that attracted MS. In contrast, the PHP community is SO hostile to DLR that they are ignoring a > fully finished implementation--phalanger? > > To be frank, with Silverlight, I don't think anyone has a choice now. The hype is too > much, and the number of hits that ironRuby gives on Google is staggering, especially considering its > nascent pre-alpha state. So PHP will be one of those things that didn't adapt to the changes > and then loses the war. > > There's lot to be learned from history--VHS vs betamax or Redhat vs Caldera. Mindshare is > the key. You lose that, and then there wont' be anything for anyone to monetize. > > Thanks for listening. > >