RE: [PHP] Development Tools

I don't know about anyone else, But in linux I use vi and as of yesterday I downloaded Vi for windows, it has great colours for coding... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Kay Technical Support - Techex Communications Website: www.techex.com.au Email: chris.kay@techex.net.au Telephone: 1300 88 111 2 - Fax: (02) 9970 5788 Address: Suite 13, 5 Vuko Place, Warriewood, NSW 2102 Platinum Channel Partner of the Year - Request DSL - Broadband for Business --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter J. Schoenster [mailto:peter@schoenster.com] > Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 5:13 AM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Development Tools > > > On 10 Jul 2002 at 18:07, Uwe Birkenhain wrote: > > > I think that - on windows - nothing is better than textpad > > (www.textpad.com). Simply the best editor the world has seen so far! > > > > What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious > > question) > > Well let me get my 2 cents in. It's a religious question. But oh > well. I recently had a lot of trouble with someone at work about > this, so I'm gonna rant. > > I too use TextPad and have been since I'm too lazy to get really good > at vi or emacs. I also know and use Perl extensively as a code > generator. Someone talked about the work in creating a form, just > give me the keys and boom form is done and read to be handed to the > designers to ruin in their special way. You could use Ruby or Rebol > or even Python I guess or PHP on the command line but I can't imagine > anyting being faster than a Perl script (to write). > > I keep trying these IDE tools. I type about 70+ wpm, so you can > imagine I'm not a fan of my hand speding half it's time in the air > between keyboard and mouse. I also try never to repeat the same code > twice so I don't cut and paste ... I put common functions in modules > and use them but few IDEs that I've used easily allow me to use those > or I haven't seen how. If anyone wants to create a great IDE for Perl > I'd love to help. It should work for PHP as well. > > I also separate my programming from my view and since I'm a > programmer and not a designer the visual view is not paramount to me > and can always be done later or at the same time by me or someone > else. I have a feeling that most PHP programmers also do their own > design and that's a reason for so much PHP stuff to have html strewn > all over the place. In any case I always think in terms of a theme > and since I've got most of my html code abstracted into "boxes" it's > just a question of my program to manipulate and supply the proper > data to the template. > > So for me, the best development tools are: > > 1. Imagination > 2. Knowledge of your tools (language, PHP, HTML, CSS, etc. in this > case) > 3. Knowledge of the computer and it's potential (I use NT as desktop > but have cygwin and use unix command tools and lots and lots of perl > scripts to aid > in development) > > 4. A good text editor (there are lots, they all have macros, revision > control, keyboard commands for as much as possible). > > Personally, I've never worked with a programmer who taught me > anything who used Dreamweaver or FrontPage etc ... all the good ones > I know use vi, emacs, textpad, etc. I'd suggest using a text editor > and then moving to an IDE or more advanced GUI and knowing that it is > faster for you as opposed to starting with an IDE or GUI because > you'll probably end up like most people and begin to think > possiblities are what your tool allows you. > > Peter > -- http://www.readbrazil.com/ > Answering Your Questions About Brazil > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >