RE: [PHP] why values not remembered by php?

Lars, Thank you very much for your explantion. It clears up my concept. It works to encode vars into URL. But I am concerned about the security because user can just change the values there on their browser. A better way to do it, I think, is through hidden variables in a form. As I understand, form is posted when yuo click submit button. My page doesn't need to use form (because there is nothing to submit). So I don't know how to make server remember the values through hidden variables in my case. I hope I am not talking too unclear. ---Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Lars Torben Wilson [mailto:torben@pinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 5:31 PM To: Sonia Tsui Cc: 'php-general@lists.php.net' Subject: Re: [PHP] why values not remembered by php? Sonia Tsui writes: > > Here is the sample code > (main.php) > > <?php > $start = $end; > $end = $start + 3; > ?> > > <html> > ...... > <a href ="main.php" ....>nextbutton</a> > <?php > for ($i = $start; $i<$end; $i++) { > echo("i: $i<br>"); > } > ?> > </html> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > so when <next button> is pressed, it comes back to this page. What I don't > understand is why $end is not remembered? I though variable exist for one > http transaction. I expect to see 0, 1, 2, 3 and then 4, 5, 6 etc. but I > just see 0,1,2,3 and then 0,1,2,3 again and again. Can anyone help with my > simple question? > > ---Sonia Exactly--variables exist only for the duration of the HTTP transaction. That's one page view. Since HTTP is a stateless protocol, the transaction goes something like this (simplified): 1) the browser opens a connection to the server 2) the browser requests a page 3) the server looks for the page, reads it, feeds it to PHP, and sends the result back to the browser 4) the connection is closed All variables are lost between pages, since there each page view constitutes a brand new connection. Broadly speaking, the act of working around this is called 'session management', meaning that you somehow get the server to 'remember' variables between pages. You can do this in a number of ways: for what you're doing here, the easiest would probably be to encode the variables into an URL or stick them into hidden variables, and then check them on the next page view. More robust session management would typically involve the server saving the variables somewhere, and then reloading them when the viewer loads the next page. Often, cookies or URL variables are used to keep track of what saved data belongs to which viewer. If you're using PHP3, check out PHPLIB (http://phplib.netuse.de), which offers this as well as a pile of other functionality. If you're using PHP4, check out the session management functions at http://www.php.net/manual/ref.session.php, which also goes into a bit more depth about what sessions actually are. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ |Torben Wilson <torben@php.net> Netmill iTech| |http://www.coastnet.com/~torben http://www.netmill.fi| |Ph: 1 250 383-9735 torben@netmill.fi| +----------------------------------------------------------------+ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net