RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?

i can honestly say when i was a newbie , browsing other peoples code , and also especially the pear packages helped me formulate my own style , in particular , the pear packages helped alot to understand the structure and how to build classes properly , and phpdocs helped to understand a standardised and forumlated way to document code properly. >===== Original Message From Jason Sheets <jsheets@shadonet.com> ===== >There is a second edition of MySQL and PHP, the first edition was a very >good book but was written before the super globals were introduced. > >I would recommend going on Amazon and bn.com and reading the reviews. >There is a lot you can learn from the PHP Manual but if you are truly a >beginner you would benefit from a good PHP book. O'reilly also has >published a PHP book now as well. > >Jason > >Leif K-Brooks wrote: > >> I've seen some PHP books, and honestly, the only book I might buy >> would be a printed copy of the PHP manual. It's more in-depth than >> most books. Exactly what is your problem with it? >> >> Beauford.2002 wrote: >> >>> My comment was that they do not use manuals, they use books written >>> by 3rd parties. Why? Because they are more detailed and go into more >>> depth than the manual. Also keep in mind that different people have >>> different learning curves - you may find the manual sufficient, >>> however, I don't. Further note that schools only teach you the >>> rudimentary base language - to really understand it is to look at >>> other peoples code and write your own. >>> >>> B. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Leif K-Brooks >>> <mailto:eurleif@buyer-brokerage.com> >>> To: Beauford.2002 <¡ >>> "åÙåQÅf`.a0¿$mailto:beauford.2002@rogers.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? >>> >>> Rule #1 im programming: what you learn in school is never right! :) >>> >>> Beauford.2002 wrote: >>> >>> I don't find manuals particularly usable and as such would rather >>> have a good reference manual that speaks in plain english. I >>> don't need to know the technical details - I need to know how it >>> works, which I don't find manuals provide. I spent four years in >>> college, and not once did they use the manual as the text of >>> choice - simply because they are not meant to teach you how to >>> use whatever it is your after. >>> B. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Leif K-Brooks >>> <mailto:eurleif@buyer-brokerage.com> >>> To: Beauford.2002 >>> <mailto:beauford.2002@rogers.com> >>> Cc: PHP General >>> <mailto:php-general@lists.php.net> >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? >>> >>> I can find an answer to nearly any question I have about PHP >>> in the manual. Any examples of what you're unable to find? >>> >>> Beauford.2002 wrote: >>> >>>> I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding >>>> tutorials, books, >>>> or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't >>>> find the >>>> PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users >>>> comments than >>>> the actual manual.. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Leif K-Brooks" <eurleif@buyer-brokerage.com> >>>> To: "Beauford.2002" <beauford.2002@rogers.com> >>>> Cc: <php-general@lists.php.net> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon >>>>> >>>>> http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, >>>>> which >>>>> >>>> >>>> says: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. >>>>> When >>>>> magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), " (double quote), \ >>>>> (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. >>>>> >>>>> Seems to explain it pretty nicely. >>>>> >>>>> Beauford.2002 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? >>>>>> Sounds >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> like >>>> >>>> >>>>>> something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as >>>>>> you know >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> what >>>> >>>> >>>>>> it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> explain >>>> >>>> >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> B. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Jennifer Goodie" <goodie@apollointeractive.com> >>>>>> To: "Beauford.2002" <beauford.2002@rogers.com>; "PHP >>>>>> General" >>>>>> <php-general@lists.php.net> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it >>>>>>> all. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> It >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> figure >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, >>>>>>> that's >>>>>>> actually what I like about PHP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:beauford.2002@rogers.com] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM >>>>>>> To: PHP General >>>>>>> Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> something >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like >>>>>>> get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use >>>>>>> it and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> what >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it >>>>>>> count >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> sheep, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> event >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> getting >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> tutorial/manual >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> would be appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> B. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: >>>>>>> http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. 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