Re: PHP vs. jsp, advice please

hi! i run some really big apps (crms/email/shopping carts/directories/forums/etc) that make use of persistance type data but NEARLY all of it is just put in and removed from the DB - just all kinds of little/big functions that need to maintain some data or state(s) of some data - my system averages 20 queries per second - thousands and thousands and thousands of simple queries - the only persistance is with mysql connections just my two cents On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 17:51, Jean-Christian Imbeault wrote: > Cpt John W. Holmes wrote: > > Agree 100%. Don't assume that just because you use JSP, or any other > > language, your program is going to instantly "scale well" and be easy to > > maintain. You can write crappy, inefficient code in any language. You can > > also write good programs in most any language if you put the proper planning > > into it before hand. > > Ok, I've got answers concerning the learning curve and maintainability > and some pros and cons that I have found very useful. > > Now the one last point that I would like to really find out about is > persistence. I keep hearing that you can get *true* persistence with > jsp/servlets/beans/whatever. I'm still trying to find out more details > on this as I can't see how you can get that since HTML is stateless and > whatever the backend is it all eventually turns into an HTML connection ... > > Sessions in PHP are nice but as everyone knows they don't allow for true > persistence. And if you want to have your objects persist over a > session, that's even more work (and in my short programming career I > have not yet found a case where persisting a PHP object across a session > was worth the trouble/overhead). > > Can anyone offer an opinion on this? Is persistence with jsp that much > easier compared to PHP? And if true persistence is possible is it all > it's cracked up to be? > > I've often dreamed of being able to have true persistence but if I had > it maybe I wouldn't find it all that useful once I'd had a go with it. > > Thanks, > > Jean-Christian Imbeault -- Jimmy Brake <jimmy@isurge.com>