RE: [PHP] PHP Certification

yeh well these exams come in modules , and are extremely pricey , i think good web examples, screenshots and experience should be enough, sadly i have not done uni so am frowned upon when looking for work but have experience in the work force, 4 years in IT now ok thats not enough but i have fine tuned my programming skills, i am wanting to move in java also now, i contract also but dont have much on my portfolio to show to get the jobs , just starting the business side of things and may have to work for near nothing just to get examples up, so i think portfolio examples are more important than certification. > Certification programs, imho, exist primarily for two reasons; > > 1. it allows developers with little experience to add credibility to > their claims that they know how to develop software. > > 2. it allows non-technical people involved in the hiring chain to make > judgements when they have no clue at all how to judge good technical > competence. Course, after you've been around a while, you learn that > you cannot do a proper job of judging anyone's competence, even after > many hours of interviews. The proof is in the project outcome. > > 3. Ok, I forgot the third reason... Someone will make lots of money > selling training materials and administering the tests. Did you really > think Microsoft got into this side of the business just to improve the > quality of technical consulting. > > my 2 cents (ok, maybe 4 cents), > > Warren Vail > warren@vailtech.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: daniel@electroteque.org [mailto:daniel@electroteque.org] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:15 PM > To: rasmus@lerdorf.com > Cc: lists@webdevfm.com; php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Certification > > > I find the value of such certification programs >> extremely questionable. > > here here :D > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php