SSL ldap bind

Hello list I am trying to do an ssl ldap bind to novell's edir 8.7. I have followed the examples from http://us4.php.net/manual/en/function.ldap-connect.php I know these examples are for AD, but they should be close to the same. I have exported the server cert and made the changes to ldap.conf. and restarted the ldap service from the command line on a linux box this works: ldapsearch -H "ldaps://ldapserver" -x but this does not ldapsearch -H "ldaps://ldapserver" and returns the error: ldap_ssl_interactive_bind_s: Unknown authentication method (86)

    additional info: SASL(-4): no mechanism available: No worthy mechs                 found
if i run the above command with the debug option -d 16 it says something about supportedSASLMechanisms1...NMAS_LOGIN

notice that on the one that does not work i am not using the -x option. This option allows you todo simple authentication. In php i can do a bind on the normal port of 389, but anything on 636 fails. $ldapserver="ldapserver"; //this works $ldapserver="ldaps://ldapserver"; //this fails $ldapserver="ldapserver:636"; //this fails if (!($ldap = ldap_connect($ldapserver))) { die ("Could not connect to LDAP Server: $server\n"); } else { print "Connected\n"; } if (!(ldap_bind($ldap, $bindUser,$bindPass))) { die ("Unable to Bind"); } else { print "Bound\n"; } I am assuming the reason that it is failing is that i am getting that same SASL error. Is there anyway to make ldap_bind() use simple authentication?? I looked at ldap_set_option() and could not find anything about simple authentication. http://us4.php.net/manual/en/function.ldap-set-option.php This page has a link to: http://www.openldap.org/devel/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/doc/drafts/draft-ietf-ldapext-ldap-c-api-xx.txt This page says something about a constant value LDAP_SASL_SIMPLE. Is there anyway to configure this? I am using: PHP 4.3.3 --with-openssl --with-ldap=yes Apache 2.0 Openldap OpenSSL 0.9.7b 10 Apr 2003 I have googled all over for this, any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jason Motes