RE: [PHP] Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA
| From: | Jake McHenry | Date: | Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:01:53 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP] Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA | ||
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tijnema ! [mailto:tijnema@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:04 PM
> To: Jake McHenry
> Cc: tedd; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA
>
> On 3/31/07, Tijnema ! <tijnema@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 3/30/07, Jake McHenry <linux@nittanytravel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: tedd [mailto:tedd@sperling.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:06 PM
> > > > To: Tijnema !; John Comerford
> > > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA
> > > >
> > > > At 3:37 PM +0200 3/30/07, Tijnema ! wrote:
> > > > >On 3/30/07, John Comerford <johnc@optionsystems.com.au> wrote:
> > > > >>I was reading the current tread on CAPTCHA and
> possible cracks and I
> > > > >>thought maybe I'd throw this out to the group to see
> what you think.
> > > > >>Recently I saw a forum where in order to post you first had
> > > > to click on
> > > > >>a div that was placed at a random location on the
> page, it read
> > > > >>something like, "Click here if you are human". I was
> thinking that
> > > > >>maybe you could put together a system that looks something
> > > > like this:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>http://people.aapt.net.au/JComerford/ClickMe.htmyy®—ý%9ø
> > > > >>«�—øEî³
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I was thinking you could use it in a couple of ways:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>1) As a replacement to a CAPTCHA image
> > > > >>2) When you click the image a CAPTCHA image is loaded into
> > > > the 'Click
> > > > >>Me' container
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The main problem is how to tell the server that the
> div has been
> > > > >>clicked, in a way that can't be simulated. I am not
> an expect with
> > > > >>either JS or PHP, but maybe some of the bigger brains out
> > > > there could
> > > > >>throw in their 2 cents......
> > > > >>
> > > > >>JC
> > > > >
> > > > >This looks maybe hard to crack, but actually it isn't
> very hard. All
> > > > >the clicking does is calling a javascript function.
> You still could
> > > > >submit the page without clicking the box.
> > > > >
> > > > >Tijnema
> > > >
> > > > Tijnema & John:
> > > >
> > > > The above link I've already done a long time ago. But
> check out my
> > > > dot CAPTCHA here:
> > > >
> > > > http://sperling.com/examples/p-captcha
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm going blind.. But I don't see a circle on that
> page anywhere?
> > > Everywhere I click it fails......
> > > Jake
> >
> > Hmm, just wanted to say that Jake, is it because i have my
> resolution
> > @ 1600x1200?
> >
> > Tijnema
>
> Actually, it just doesn't work with IE6, it works with FireFox. :)
That would be my problem then :)
Jake
>
> Tijnema
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > This does not use javascript, but does use sessions.
> > > >
> > > > As you can see, the blue dot can be placed anywhere on
> the entrance
> > > > page. Granted this presents problem for the visually
> impaired, so I'm
> > > > not recommending it. But, it's just a proof of concept
> at this point.
> > > > Plus, I have not checked this on all browsers. I
> suspect that some
> > > > browsers may have problems with alpha channel images -- so your
> > > > mileage may differ.
> > > >
> > > > In any event, I think this may be a bit more difficult
> to crack than
> > > > something that replies upon javascript -- what do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > tedd
> > > >
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