Re: PEAR website and MSIE 6

Eric Butera schreef:

On Jan 31, 2008 11:14 AM, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:

Eric Butera schreef:

On Jan 31, 2008 9:27 AM, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:

Eric Butera schreef:

On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:

Richard Heyes schreef:

Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes for me.

firefox not an option? or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-)

http://pear.php.net Thanks.

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IE8 passes Acid2. :)

a, it's not out. b, all that was said was it does - is there proof? (screenshot doesn't count). c, they also want to force developers to include extra meta tags to force IE8 to run in strict valdation mode ... otherwise it will run using the old parser ... or something like that. d, it's liable to be more to do with EU lawsuits than actually giving a hoot about stds compliance of any sort. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/25/ie8_version_switch/

I'm up to date on the situation, thanks! :) I just had to throw that in there because you said Firefox like it is the best browser.

no that's your interpretation. I merely implied firefox was better than IE. and if your a webdeveloper then atm it is the best browser for one simple reason - firebug.

I agree that Firebug is an amazing ext in Firefox. I use it regularly along with the live headers ext in my work to track XHTTP requests. What are your favorite aspects of Firebug?

in line editing of just about everything, introspection of everything. er everything. Safari has some nice HTML

and Javascript debugging with Drosera & the Web Inspector.

I use Firefox with NoScript when I'm browsing the

bully for you. given that this is the world of web2.0 I'd imagine your browsing is rather limited. it's also masochistic given that you apparently choose to use an inferior product (as per your own opinion)

I use different browsers for tasks. Gmail/Google Reader share Camino. Safari is the browser I use for browsing/work. Firefox is the browser I use for viewing sites I don't trust with the NoScript/Flashblock extensions. The fact that XSS and CSRF can steal your identity/perform actions is serious business to me. I do what I can to protect myself.

web, but it is by no means the "best" browser. Safari & Opera have "better" renderers and do it faster.

ah so my supposed opinion needs to take a back seat to your "better" opinion, no renderer is perfect. and they're all slightly different. let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera and Safari is only used by MacHeads (which account for about 0.1% of the population) - recommending firefox is mostly about educating Joe Average to the possiblities of an alternative that is used by more than 5 people already.

I wasn't trying to say my opinion was better. I was just stating that the rendering engine in Opera and Safari pass the acid2 test[1]. Firefox does not.

you didn't state anything of the sort until just then. and you do realise that Acid2 is not actually a standard AND that there are plenty of differences of opinion regarding the minutae of 'proper implementation' of some of the things Acid2 tests.

I'm not talking about the Mozilla engine though because Camino fairly decent. It's just all that chrome bloat really makes me sick.

then go to bed.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2#Compliant_applications