Re: Re: Question about development
| From: | Wolf | Date: | Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:30 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: Question about development | ||
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---- Jason Pruim <japruim@raoset.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
>
> > Jason Pruim wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >> I know this isn't 100% on topic... But when is any post to this
> >> list 100% on topic? :)
> >> I've been doing some googling trying to find info on how to plan
> >> for what a website needs. Stuff like Does it need a forum, live
> >> support, database driven etc. etc. Does anyone have a form that
> >> they use to give to the client asking them to outline some ideas
> >> that they have about the website?
> >> What I'm looking for is something that I could give to a potential
> >> client and ask them to describe some basic aspects of their target
> >> audience, a rough idea of what they want it to look like, or at
> >> least other sites that they like. Stuff like that..
> >> Even if you don't have such a form, I'm sure you all have standard
> >> questions you ask each client before giving a quote :)
> >> Anyone want to share with the class?
> >> If there is interest, I may even put it together on a webpage to
> >> help future people :)
> >> --
> >> Jason Pruim
> >> Raoset Inc.
> >> Technology Manager
> >> MQC Specialist
> >> 3251 132nd ave
> >> Holland, MI, 49424
> >> www.raoset.com
> >> japruim@raoset.com
> >
> > I always take the simple approach, ask them what they want to
> > achieve/expect from the website. Then verbally work backwards with
> > them to figure out what the website needs in order to reach the
> > clients goal.
> >
> > (personally) In all honesty I'd stay away from any kind of form, as
> > they'll just pick "nice to have" boxes and end up with something
> > overpriced, not suited to there needs and you'll get complaints in 6
> > months time.
> >
> > hope that makes sense!
> >
> > ps: the only thing I've found useful that way after many years, is
> > to make the base site structure with very short text descriptions on
> > each page + links to the next page | and for god sake, leave the
> > "home" page will very very last!
> >
> > Nathan
>
> Hey Nathan,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm just getting more and more into freelance
> web work and have my first client asking for a quote. Before now, it's
> all been internal applications, and the companies website that I have
> worked on. Nothing for other people.
>
> I was actually thinking that the form would be for me to make sure I
> covered the basics... I'm alot better if I have something written down
> and I can ask the client "Do you need to support multiple languages?"
> Which to me then, would lead me into using a database[1] for storing
> the pages and using browser sniffing to find out what language
> preference they currently had selected to display in that language :)
>
>
> [1] As I was typing this I realized that maybe a database isn't the
> best idea for that, but it's the only way I can think of. Anyone who
> wants to give me another option is more then welcome to do so!
>
>
> --
>
> Jason Pruim
> Raoset Inc.
> Technology Manager
> MQC Specialist
> 3251 132nd ave
> Holland, MI, 49424
> www.raoset.com
> japruim@raoset.com <--Email and Googletalk/Jabber IM ID.
>
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I generally ask people what they are looking to do with the site. Are they just wanting to have an
image out there, do they want a contact form, do they want to sell something, do they really care to
translate it (blowfish),
Then I go into how much $$$ do they want to spend, do they want to update it themselves, how they
have worked on it in the past, etc.
Generally that alone gives me a good base point. But I'm scatter-brained enough that I just
write things down as we talk and that leads me to more questions to ask them. :)
Wolf