Re: Guidance
| From: | Jochem Maas | Date: | Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:25:10 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Guidance | ||
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Stut schreef:
On 27 Feb 2008, at 20:59, Daniel Brown wrote:I guess it's a matter of semantics. to me 'developer' means 'engineer' in terms of a being able to perform high-level problem analysis, designing a solution and implementing it ... within budget, whilst keeping an eye on the actual [commercial] goals of the client (as opposed to the goals a client might speak of ... what a client says they need, and what they actually need aren't often the same) what others might consider a 'developer' I'd call a 'programmer' - someone whoe takes my analysis and proposed solution and makes a botch job of implementing it ... with the added bonus of not actually ever thinking about their creation outside the confines of their little fish bowl.So let this be at least a basic retort to those who don't consider web development "real programming." Because you'd be surprised how much I hear, "oh, you work with web stuff, I thought you meant you were a real programmer." Well, I'm not. I'm an engineer. At least according to my paycheck. ;-PI hear that a lot and by the numbers it's fairly accurate. In my experience there is a big difference between a web developer and a software engineer. If someone is hiring a web developer then I'm not interested. If they want a properly engineered website then I might be interested.
I've interviewed more than my fair share of "web developers" who couldn't reverse an array without using array_reverse if their life depended on it. Sometimes it really does scare me!are there any other restrictions other than not to use array_reverse()? ;-)
So my experience is that there are far more web developers out there than software engineers who do web development, and it's getting harder to find decent software engineers to do web-based work at a reasonable price. The good ones are rare - so rare in fact that I'm having trouble finding one at the moment. If anyone considers themselves a software engineer rather than a web developer and would like a job in Windsor drop me a note. -Stut