Re: upload progress (was www.soongy.com)

On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 15:02 -0800, mike wrote: > Yes you can do it with only javascript but you'll need server > components to deal with large files ... Which the OP does not have > access to. Post and file limits could become an issue. > > Not to mention flash and java penetration is huge. I think flash is on > something like 96% of browsers now... > > Just think of how usenet, bittorrent, etc work. They split up larger > files into smaller chunks and assemble it after. The same idea was in > my head when I approached this. > > On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:26 PM, "Michael A. Peters" <mpeters@mac.com> > wrote: > > > mike wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Boyd, Todd M. <tmboyd1@ccis.edu> > >> wrote: > >>> Gears will allow you to do a lot of things. So will site- > >>> proprietary Firefox extensions that go well outside the realm of > >>> basic client-server interaction via webpages. I was under the > >>> impression that Gears requires a local installation of their > >>> client library in order to work. > >>> > >>> I don't think "download this new extension so you can upload files > >>> to our site" is going to go over so well. > >> Of course not, but > >> a) browsers don't have it built-in, yet (I was working on trying to > >> make a "standard" that I could pitch to browser creators) > >> b) how do you think the flash or java applets got there anyway? :) > >> Have a standard upload form. Tell people if they want more advanced > >> multi-file support, progress support, etc, etc, install Gears as > >> well. > >> To me, Gears should be something just like Flash and Java... and I > >> think is lighter-weight and allows for extending browser capabilities > >> across nearly every platform without learning new languages. > > > > I don't like to install firefox extensions, I keep them to a bare > > minimum (more stable that way, less annoyances from updates to some > > extension or another being found ever session, etc) and I don't like > > sites that depend upon flash and java for functionality. > > > > I won't install an extension just to use a specific site, I only > > install an extension if it is something I want (IE noscript - to > > keep your annoying flash from using my browsers resources). > > > > You can do a good multi-file upload progress bar w/ the client only > > needing to allow JavaScript. In the OP's case that may mean the OP > > has to change hosts or use perl to process the upload, but here's > > the thing - if the client doesn't allow JavaScript, the upload still > > works fine - they just don't get a progress bar. You can use the > > same form - just use <noscript>foo</noscript> to tell users to be > > patient and not hit submit 20 zillion times. > > > > With a flash / java based solution, you have to have different code > > for users who wisely do not allow flash and/or java, which is more > > work for you (you have to test and maintain multiple uploads) and > > requires the user to take specific action depending upon their setup. > > > > // steps off soap box > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > There are a lot of free FTP Java applets out there, which you could easily integrate with a web page and your hosting. You'll have the advantage of a familiar interface, multiple uploads, queues, and progress bars. Worst case scenario, user has no Java and you have to offer a standard upload form. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk