verify problem

And again, this works: if (strlen($_POST["first_nameIN"]) == 0 ) { $obligatoryFieldNotPresent = 1; ... this does not: if (strlen($_POST["first_nameIN"]) > 0 ) && (strlen($_POST["last_nameIN"]) > 0 ) { echo $first_nameIN, " ", $last_nameIN); else (echo "error";)} But, $first_nameIn and $last_nameIN do echo their contents without the if clause and we see that the first if clause does work... what am I doing wrong, again? -- unheralded genius: "A clean desk is the sign of a dull mind. " ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php