Re: Preventing XSS Attacks
| From: | Andrew Ballard | Date: | Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:40:26 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Preventing XSS Attacks | ||
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Ashley
Sheridan<ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 14:14 -0400, Eddie Drapkin wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Ashley Sheridan
>> <ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 19:03 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:17 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
>> > > > Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>> > > > > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:05 +0530, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>> I've been doing a bit of reading, and I can't really
>> > > > >>> understand why
>> > XSS
>> > > > >>> is such an issue. Sure, if a user can insert a <script>
>> > > > >>> tag, what
>> > > > >>> difference will that make to anyone else, as it is only on
>> > > > >>> their
>> > own
>> > > > >>> browser.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >> 1. User 1 logs on to the application. Fills up the form with
>> > malicious
>> > > > >> JS code in it. The server accepts the input, is stored in the
>> > database.
>> > > > >> 2. User 2 logs on to the application. Goes to the view the
>> > information
>> > > > >> stored in the database. The JS gets executed on user 2's
>> > > > >> browser.
>> > User
>> > > > >> is attacked by XSS.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I hope that clarifies the question.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > > It does to a degree. So I shouldn't really worry about it in this
>> > case,
>> > > > > as input from one user will never be displayed to any other user.. If
>> > it
>> > > > > was a forum or something, it would, but the search string is only
>> > ever
>> > > > > shown to the user who entered it, and never stored for later display.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > It is easy to slip by. I recall a website was hacked using XSS on the
>> > > > page the admin views the log entries. Just in case, you or somebody
>> > else
>> > > > tries to add the search log feature in the future, keep this at the
>> > back
>> > > > of your mind. Having the user to click on a harmful URI is ridiculously
>> > > > easy.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > With warm regards,
>> > > > Sudheer. S
>> > > > Business: http://binaryvibes.co.in, Tech
>> > > > stuff: http://techchorus.net,
>> > Personal: http://sudheer.net
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Yeah, I never realised what a minefield it could be, but I've been doing
>> > > a lot of reading today!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Ash
>> > > www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>> > >
>> > >
>> > So something like this would be acceptable?:
>> >
>> > $searchTerms =
>> > (isset($_REQUEST['q']))?$_REQUEST['q']:'';
>> > $searchTerms = htmlentities($searchTerms);
>> > $dbSearchTerms = mysql_real_escape_string($searchTerms);
>> >
>> > Giving me two variables, one for display output to user, the other for
>> > use in the database?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Ash
>> > www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>> >
>>
>>
>> You wouldn't want to insert htmlentity escaped information into your
>> database.
>>
>> This method has always worked well for me:
>>
>> Accept input -> db escape -> store;
>> Retrieve output from db -> html escape -> display;
>>
>> So, I'm actually storing (in at least one case that I've seen), human
>> readable XSS in the database, but I have a consistent approach to escaping
>> before outputting so that it never gets displayed as XSS and I never
>> accidentally escape it twice, which depending on a few factors, can have
>> some pretty ugly results. You wouldn't want to see &amp; anywhere,
>> would you? Alternatively though, if you are storing it html-escaped in the
>> database, make sure you don't ever escape it before you output, but I find
>> that approach a lot less flexible, has problems with searches, isn't easy to
>> read from the mysql cli console, etc. etc.
>
> OK, so I just swapped those last two lines over like so:
>
> $searchTerms = (isset($_REQUEST['q']))?trim($_REQUEST['q']):'';
> $dbSearchTerms = mysql_real_escape_string($searchTerms);
> $searchTerms = htmlentities($searchTerms);
>
>
> Thanks
> Ash
> www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
I wouldn't self-assign the output of htmlentities to $searchTerms at all.
<?php
$searchTerms = (isset($_REQUEST['q']))?trim($_REQUEST['q']):'';
// Rather than this:
$searchTerms = htmlspecialchars($searchTerms);
echo $searchTerms;
// I prefer this:
echo htmlspecialchars($searchTerms);
?>
Escape sequences are not part of the data, so I don't store them.
Andrew