Re: is Aptana taking a crap on the face of PHP?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Robert Cummings <robert@interjinn.com> wrote: > I've never even heard of Aptana... I use Joe...it's a terminal based editor. > Works anywhere you have a terminal... just like other popular editors such > as vi :) > > Cheers, > Rob. > > > Daevid Vincent wrote: >> >> Whoa, am I reading this right that Aptana is basically moving away from >> PHP?? >> >>  https://aptanastudio.tenderapp.com/discussions/suggestions/58-aptana-20 >> >> >> https://aptanastudio.tenderapp.com/discussions/questions/75-aptana-no-longer >> -has-php >> http://www.aptana.org/php >>  It sounds like they put in the old PHP 1.1 plug-in just to shut the angry >> mob up, but I don't get the feeling they plan to do any further PHP >> development. That is a real shame as Zend Studio NEEDS competition. >>  I guess PDT (http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/) may end up benefiting from >> this, >> but I suspect it will be some time to come before the two projects are >> merged properly. Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed that this *IS* the >> best >> solution for the long term. In the mean time, I can't help but feel a >> piece >> of the PHP community just "died"... well, maybe "moved away" is more >> accurate. >>  I do find it a little ironic as I just started a new project on Monday >> and >> was fully expecting to develop it all using Aptana. Guess I'll stick with >> 1.5 for now (warts and all). >>  How is PDT? I tried to install it with Aptana 1.5 and it failed: >>  Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not >> be >> found. >>  Software being installed: PDT Runtime Feature 2.0.0.v20090315-1850 >> (org.eclipse.php.feature.group 2.0.0.v20090315-1850) >>  Missing requirement: PDT Runtime Feature 2.0.0.v20090315-1850 >> (org.eclipse.php.feature.group 2.0.0.v20090315-1850) requires >> 'org.eclipse.dltk.core.feature.group [1.0.0,2.0.0)' but it could not be >> found >>  ooops, found my own solution to that one: >> >> >> https://aptanastudio.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/328-aptana-php-platfLò¬õ’—JœòÆ … >> >> orm-and-pdt-not-available >> >> >> https://aptanastudio.tenderapp.com/faqs/third-party-plugins/aptana-studio-an >> d-php-development-tools >>  First impressions: >> >> *       The amazing color coding that Aptana had for PHP (down to >> individual >> left and right braces even!) is gone!!! >> *       The PHP code formatter is also gone!! >> *       Code assist and completion is gone too for any functions NOT on >> the >> current page. It doesn't even know the name of variables WITHIN a >> function! >> THIS F'ING BLOWS. >> >> Am I not doing something right? I mean, what the hell does PDT do actually >> then? It can't be a v2.1 and this much pure failure can it? >> > > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Damn, meant to send to all The issue here is that there are a lot of choices in the PHP space. Eclipse, Aptana, Komodo, Zend, a host of various simpler text editors. Aptana has chosen not to compete in this space and its their choice. Personally, I use NetBeans or Komodo when I require something with a bit of power. The biggest issue with IDEs that I have, is they are so damn slow to start. Some of the smaller text editors are much quicker to start and have most of what I need to do what we all have so much fun doing. -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat