Re: the state of the PHP community

Nathan Rixham wrote: > (shared) hosts and in developer+projects - but I also worry that it > doesn't change with the times quick enough, + the core doesn't have > the same hacker + iterative development focus anymore, contrast other > languages which get major functionality added at minor revisions, and > minor revisions every few days/weeks and there certainly is something > to worry about. > > This said, perhaps the worry is primarily on a personal basis with > developers loosing time invested in PHP were they to move off to other > languages. > > Real worries in the PHP core for me, are the huge ignorance and lack > of native support for HTTP (which is somewhat ironic), lack of support > for NoSQL + RDF tooling, and also support + implementations of the new > sets of webapps APIs. None of that is very 'core' to me - it's the stuff for libraries. When there's a sufficient need, it'll appear. > Overall, the general sentiment of 'if it can be done in userland, let > it be done there' isn't always the best approach (although I > understand the arguments to the contrary) - ultimately though, PHP > does feel 'stale' comparatively. If you look at PHP as a language with a set of libraries, the language itself is as 'stale' as maybe C or Java or assembler - the language shouldn't change all that often, nor should the core libraries, but everything else is free to do whatever. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.0°C)