Re: Bare Strings, are they deprecated?

On 14 January 2011 16:06, Evil Son <ewilsonmail@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:51 AM, larry@garfieldtech.com > <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >> Assuming that by "bare strings" you mean: >> >> $foo[bar] = 'baz'; >> >> as opposed to: >> >> $foo['bar'] = 'baz'; > > Yes, indeed. > >> That is generally considered very bad form in PHP.  That throws an E_NOTICE >> error level, and therefore slows down your code (if only by a small amount) >> for the error handling.  Of course, if you have any respect for your code >> you're developing under E_ALL so bare strings for array keys would print >> ugly notices messages at you constantly.  If you're not developing under >> E_ALL, then you're going to miss error messages that will take a long time >> to track down and correct yourself when the PHP interpreter can simply tell >> you exactly where they are if you let it. > > My first little app which is about an hour old is a command line > utility for personal use and to be honest, I haven't checked the logs > or the settings of php.ini so I don't know what the warning level is > set at. I did not know that the interpreter emitted such a warning for > bare strings. So it's settled for me: check my php.ini to ensure that > I run at E_ALL | E_STRICT | E_NOTICE and refrain from using bare > strings. > > Thanks for your thoughts and the reminder. > > Regards. > > >> Bottom line: Bare strings are not officially deprecated, but no respectable >> programmer users them. >> >> (I now expect to get flamed by someone who uses them but is insulted that I >> am calling them not respectable.  My position on the matter still stands.) >> >> --Larry Garfield >> >> On 1/14/11 9:44 AM, Evil Son wrote: >>> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> I am a new and just an occasional user of PHP and would like some >>> direction. >>> >>> I find the use of bare strings as array keys pleasant to work with, >>> easy on the eye and quick to type. I understand that this use of bare >>> strings is not encouraged because of possible conflicts with key words >>> and constants and to a lesser degree loss of some performance. >>> >>> I tend to use all capitals for my constants and never for my array >>> keys (if bare). In addition, collisions with PHP keywords fails fast >>> when they happen. My application is for personal use, and any >>> performance degradation is insignificant. >>> >>> However, I can imagine having collisions with constants defined by >>> libraries that I may use. >>> >>> Have you found the use of bare strings a significant issue? Or do the >>> benefits outweigh the dangers? Perl and Tcl both have them. I like >>> them in PHP too. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > > > > -- > Regards > Evil Son > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > error_reporting=-1 display_errors=On will turn on everything and tell you about it. Alternatively, take a look at the setting of php.ini-development. This is the recommended settings for developing with PHP, as opposed to php.ini-production which is the recommend settings for running PHP in a live environment. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY