Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

Ashley Sheridan <ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk> writes: > On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 19:23 +0200, Richard Riley wrote: > >> Geoff Shang <geoff@QuiteLikely.com> writes: >> >> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: >> > >> >>> I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because >> >>> they don't >> >>> support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still >> >>> be read, >> >>> which is all I'm wanting to do anyway. >> >> >> >> They need to or there can be unintentional side affects that will >> >> reflect badly on them and possibly you. >> > >> > Rubbish. All they need to do is what everyone else does and say "This site may >> > not work well on your browser, we recommend using Internet Explorer or firefox" >> > (or whatever they support). Then if I choose to use it, it's on my own head, >> > which is fine by me. >> >> Not rubbish at all. They owe you nothing. >> >> Not everyone is you. >> >> If they allowed incompatible browsers that caused havoc then before you >> know it the great unwashed would be demanding more and better support or >> complaining about lack of functionality. Doing what they do they make it >> very clear from day one. >> >> Dont like it? The APIs are open. Write your own interfaces to their >> authentication and graph API and target the parts that wont result in >> your accuont being banned for chucking access tokens around and breaking >> their security model. >> >> Simple solution : use an uptodate capable browser if you want to use >> these technologies. I really dont see why people whine. >> >> >> >> > > I think his point is that a lot of websites ignorantly stop browsers not > on their list of compatible ones, and end up blocking browsers that > would work perfectly well, just the original developer either wasn't > aware or didn't care. This used to be in the form of Javascript > detecting if a browser was IE, and if it wasn't, assuming blindly it was > Netscape Navigator. Now Fx seems to be in that position, and many sites > ignore perfectly good browsers like Chrome, Safari, Opera & Konqueror to > name a few. All of these are modern browsers, yet they will be blocked > by stupid code. Ignorant blocking is a different matter and I would agree. Blocking because someone is using out of date or incapable browsers is another issue. It is the latter, and specifically something with a rich UI that requires secure connections like FB that I am discussing.