RE: [PHP] PHP RFC's

perhaps a dumb question, but in regards to the original message below: are there any PHP RFC's in existance? Is there any way for the general PHP-using public to contribute to PHP's future? -mark > --- Dave VanAuken <dave@hawk-systems.com> wrote: > > I agree, and this is the primary reason why > > Javascript is barely a > > tool in my opinion - the fact that half of its > > implementations don't > > work on half the browsers... > > > > We also need to remember though that all these > > standards are simply > > RFC's (Request For Comments) meaning that they are > > driven by feedback > > and general concensus... The reason that we are > > still not limited to > > HTML 0 is because of people pushing standards > > through the RFC > > process(good) and browser monoliths from pushing > > THEIR own standards > > (maybe not so good) due to market pull. > > > > Thus my comment, not judging the right or wrong or > > correctness of > > nature, as its not my place to determine if > someone > > should code their > > site with code that only works on MSIE 7.0a > codename > > "never work" or > > elects to be HTML 1, 1.1 and so forth complient. > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:44 PM > > To: Dave VanAuken; php-general@lists.php.net > > Subject: RE: [PHP] Header > > > > > > Ever heard of WaSP? It's a group of people pushing > > HTML UA > > vendors towards standards compliance. Because > > noncompliance > > is what created the web hell where HTML people > must > > have > > a different version of a HTML page for every > browser > > their > > audience uses. > > Noncompliance with HTTP 1.1 is what brought us > > coders problems > > with proxies. > > > > header( "Location: ../blah/index.html") ; > > might work with all current browsers, because > > they're not > > compliant with the HTTP protocol. Next time you > > scream in > > anger because of lack of support for standard X in > > browser Y, > > rest assured it's not that the programmers played > > Minesweeper. > > They spent the time they should've been > implementing > > proper > > web standards support coding around your laziness > > instead. > > > > No offense intended, I'm just... > > > > > > At 20:05 20.12. 2000, Dave VanAuken wrote the > > following: > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >No, but it isn't "required" for the function to > > perform as intended. > > > > > >Stating what is proper to be compliant and > stating > > what is required > > >are two different things. > > > > > >Dave > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 12:49 PM > > >To: mathias rockel; Dan Lowe; > > php-general@lists.php.net > > >Subject: Re: [PHP] Header > > > > > > > > >Is being standards-compliant such a PITA? > > > > > > > > >At 18:41 20.12. 2000, mathias rockel wrote the > > following: > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>Hi! > > >> > > >>Although it is it seemed to me every browser I > > tried could use > > >relative urls > > >>as a location header. anyone made different > > experiences ? > > >> > > >>mats > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Dan Lowe" <dan@tangledhelix.com> > > >>To: <php-general@lists.php.net> > > >>Cc: <php-general@lists.php.net> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:08 AM > > >>Subject: Re: [PHP] Header > > >> > > >> > > >>> Previously, Diogo Zulli said: > > >>> > On [15 December 2000 18:32] (Cynic), wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > } According to the HTTP protocol, the URL > > must be absolute. > > >>> > > > >>> > Does this means that > > >>> > "http://hostname/" > should > > be on "Location: > > " > > >>> > or just the /absolute/pathname must be > there? > > >>> > > >>> Must be fully qualified with protocol, host, > and > > anything extra, > > so > > >>> yes, http://hostname/extra/ is needed. > > >>> > > >>> See section 14.30 of RFC 2616 (HTTP 1.1) or > > section 10.11 of RFC > > >1945 > > >>> (HTTP 1.0). > > >>> > > >>> The Location response-header field defines > > the exact location > > >of the > > >>> resource that was identified by the > > Request-URI. For 3xx > > >responses, > > >>> the location must indicate the server's > > preferred URL for > > >automatic > > >>> redirection to the resource. Only one > > absolute URL is allowed. > > >>> > > >>> Location = "Location" ":" > > absoluteURI > > >>> > > >>> An example is > > >>> > > >>> Location: > > http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/NewLocation.html > > >>> > > >>> -dan > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Dan Lowe <dan@tangledhelix.com> > > http://tangledhelix.com/ > > >>> > > >>> What happens if you get scared half to death > > twice? > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > >php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > >php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > >>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > >php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > >------end of quote------ > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________ > > >Cynic: > > > > > >A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers > > who taught > > >that virtue constitutes happiness and that self > > control is > > >the essential part of virtue. > > > > > >cynic@mail.cz > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > >php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > ------end of quote------ > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Cynic: > > > > A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers > > who taught > > that virtue constitutes happiness and that self > > control is > > the essential part of virtue. > > > > cynic@mail.cz > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > . > > net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > php-general-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > . > > > > > ===== > ***************************************************** > * WebHosting from $15/mo! 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