Re: test/list DMARC issues

From: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:14:26 +0000
Subject: Re: test/list DMARC issues
Groups: php.general 
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> Date: Monday, January 23, 2017 18:21:49 +0100 > From: "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@gmx.de> > > On 22.01.2017 at 19:53, Richard wrote: > >> One of the issues that some people may be encountering is that this >> mailing list's software doesn't handle things correctly for DMARC. >> If your provider's mail server is configured to enforce DMARC, >> messages from places that have "reject" set, e.g., yahoo: >> >> _dmarc.yahoo.com. 1800 IN TXT "v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; >> >> will be rejected by your mail server. In a case like this, this >> means that anyone with an @yahoo... address who posts to this list >> will cause a bounce for recipient list member whose mail server is >> enforcing DMARC. Depending on the configuration of the mailing list >> software and the frequency of postings by @yahoo people the >> (passive/recipient) list member may get a probe or may get dropped >> from the list. >> >> The long and short is that this list's software needs to be updated >> to something that conforms with current mail standards and >> practices. I have tried to raise this with the owners of various >> of the php lists, but have gotten no response or action. > > Have you already reported this issue to the php-webmaster and/or > systems mailing lists? Mentioning it on php-general goes likely > unnoticed by the folks who could fix it. Yes, as I indicated: > I have tried to raise this with the owners of various > of the php lists to the "-owners" addresses. [Looking back i see that I sent to the -internals and -db owners, but not the -general owners. Nothing has been done on those and I suspect they will change/update their mailing list software as a common effort for all the lists.] Since the probes don't get rejected I haven't gotten kicked off the php lists, yet. This is an issue that anyone who runs a mailing list should be aware of by now. Yahoo has had their DMARC setting at "reject" for more than a year. I have heard that gmail is enforcing DMARC (I haven't had a chance to confirm this), Yahoo does and other major providers are starting to too, so increasingly list mail will bounce unless the list owners update their software.

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