Re: Encoder price too high (was: Zend hit)

We are working on extending the APC cache (http://apc.communityconnect.com) with an encoder, and already have a pretty much functioning version (though its a bit of hack job at the moment :). I think the patches we made were sent to the dev list, but I can send them around at request. adamw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Teasdale" <adrian@inovica.com> To: <php-general@lists.php.net> Cc: "Uioreanu Calin" <udmsromkt@mail.dntcj.ro> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: [PHP] Encoder price too high (was: Zend hit) > > "Uioreanu Calin" <udmsromkt@mail.dntcj.ro> wrote in message > > Hello, > > > > What do you think about Zend position? > > I thought I would reply to the list on this one, basically to see if I am in > the minority (and if so, I will shut up!)... > > Firstly, many people who use PHP do so to make money - I know I do! > Therefore, I don't see anything wrong with the guys at Zend developing > products that make my life easier, make PHP a better product and they can > get paid for doing so. > > However, although I have said the above, I do feel that the price points > that have been chosen are very disapointing, especially for the Encoder > Unlimited which is priced at $6000. The guys at Zend have raised > expectations for their products since they launched their site and I have > been looking forward to the Encoder (as it is now called) for most of that > time. I can only think that it is the much larger companies that can afford > this kind of price and I now feel that I cannot have a "feature" that I had > been waiting to use for some time. Cold Fusion has a method of encryting > it's code, and it comes like that out of the box (and at a much cheaper > price). What the guys at Zend are basically saying is that if you want to > use the better product (ie PHP) and want the encryption functionality found > in products like Cold Fusion, then you are going to have to pay handsomely > for it! I would definitely have paid $1000 for the Unlimited Encoder, but > no more than that. > > What does everyone else think? Am I being unfair here in my assessment? > > I know that there has been an argument on the Zend site that "until 2 days > ago, you were happy using PHP", but I disagree with that because I've been > waiting so long for the Encoder knowing I needed it, and delaying on > releasing a couple of low-cost ($20 each) apps until it was ready > > Finally, is there anything else out there either a) in the open source > community or b) commercially available at a more sensible price? If not, > are there people on this list who could band together to develop something > that competes against it? > > Any replies always appreciated :) > > Ade > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > >