Re: Buggy Java GUI? (just a tad OT)

Hm, that would probably explain it. I assumed it wasn't it because the programs are so comparitively small...then again, it's not the size that counts blah blah... Since it loads so much up at one time rather than a little bit at a time, it probably eats a huge amount of ram. Forte probably loads the majority of the JDK, the virtual machine, all it's neccessary system files and the majority of it's class files, plus any files the user opens/builds. I suppose Java's lack of programmer defined memory management is probably the cause, since in other languages the programmer explicitly says what to load and what to unload. Ah well, I suppose that's the price of simplicity. Thanks for your answer. I feel better about Java now...but now I have issues about the size of my RAM. ;) -- Plutarck Should be working on something... ...but forgot what it was. "Seung-woo Nam" <snam1343@home.com> wrote in message news:3AE20352.3621233E@home.com... > Hi: > If you don't have plenty of ram on your machine, forget about running > Forte. Java applications that use swing look nice but they use a lot of > systems resources. It's not a bug, per se, but whenever your systems > runs out of physical memory and start writing stuff on the virtual > memory, that's what you get. I have 224MB on my machine and Forte is > still slow. > > Seung-woo Nam > > Plutarck wrote: > > > > I've been toying around with Java to possibly interface with PHP, but I have > > a question about it. > > > > Is it just me, or is the GUI in most standalone java applications remarkably > > (and annoyingly) buggy? > > > > I downloaded Forte for Java by Sun, and after the 45 second loading time I > > noticed that if you click around the menus or move your cursor too fast, a > > menu will become temporarily "burned" into the frame of the page. Same if > > you hover on one button till a message comes up, then switch over to another > > button, a portion of the original message will still be shown. > > > > Same goes for Limewire and other 100% java apps I've tried. > > > > I was just wondering if it's just my machine, or because I use the windows98 > > VM, or if everyone experiences the same thing. > > > > I'm guessing the horrendous starting load time is native to java, but at > > least it runs ok once you get the thing to start. > > > > -- > > Plutarck > > Should be working on something... > > ...but forgot what it was. > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >