RE: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk)

IMO: There should be something like the OpenBSD-misc = PHP General, and OpenBS-Tech = A more advanced list... "Please do not cross post"... Regards, Martin Marconcini www.marconcini.com.ar "Life must be lived looking forward and can be understood only looking backward." Soren Kierkegaard > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Masiello [mailto:smasiello@synacor.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:15 PM > To: Darren Henderson > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk) > > > I think the problem with spreading out discussions that can be as broad as > the PHP discussion is that you still tend to have people gravitate towards > some of the more "general" or "higher level discussion" groups regardless > of > whether or not it should fall into the "newbie" category or not. > > This is for a couple of reasons: > 1) Newbies may think that their newbie group is read mainly by > newbies...so > their question either might not get answered at all or will not receive > the > thorough answer they were hoping for. > 2) Being a newbie, they might think that their question is "worthy" (for > lack of a better term) of higher level discussion because, to them, it is > a > very difficult problem to solve. > > ...not to mention that questions would then be "spammed" across multiple > mailing lists anyway. > > Either way, we would still need a PHP General Forum, so I am not convinced > that creating more specialized mailing lists would accomplish much more > than > creating MORE mail traffic (from the spammed questions) and alienating > people who used the more specialized lists because most everyone else is > still mainly reading the "General Forum." > > My 2 copper pieces worth. > > Sam Masiello > Software Quality Assurance Engineer > Synacor > (716) 853-1362 x289 > smasiello@synacor.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Henderson [mailto:darren@bmv.state.me.us] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM > To: B. van Ouwerkerk > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk) > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, B. van Ouwerkerk wrote: > > > There's nothing wrong with being a newbie.. the only newbie-problem I > > see/have is the lazy one.. ask ask ask ask without taking the time to > read > > the manual or to do a search in the archive. Sure there are newbies who > > read the manual.. get some tutorials.. thats good. They should get all > the > > support they need.. > > Unfortunately this kind of thing happens on all the mailing lists I've > seen > that are devoted to questions. The real problem here is that the list is > simply too busy. I can do no more then skim the subject lines and then > usually delete all of it unless something jumps out at me. > > It might be helpful if some new mailing lists were created, it wouldn't be > a > perfect solution but it would help if there were some degree of self > selecting behavior possible. Currenty all questions go to php-general. If > there were, say, a php-newuser and a php-questions list then perhaps > php-general could be used for slightly higher level discussions. Actually > its probably too late to "save" php-general, hard to get people to > change. Maybe a new list that caters to a higher level of discussion, say > php-authoring or the like? > > Just a thought. So much tends to get lost or over looked in high volume > mailing lists. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Darren Henderson darren@bmv.state.me.us > darren.henderson@state.me.us > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net