Re: how to.. arrays? :D

First of all, what is the data to begin with? In your original message you mentioned that you want team32 = "something" and team22 = "something else" but what is "something"? Where is this string coming from? To give you an idea on how a multi-dimensional array works, it is the same as a normal array, only each array index's value has its own set of values. So $array[0][0] is the first array's first value, $array[0][1] is the first array's second value, $array[1][4] is the second array's fifth value, etc. Think of it as looking like your standard Explorer tree (except that I'm not a line artist).... array array[0] array[0][0] = "bob" array[0][1] = "fred" array[0][2] = "joe" array[0][3] = "mama" array[1] array[1][0] = "sven" array[1][1] = "jorgie" array[1][2] = "olie" array[2] array[2][0] = "helga" array[2][1] = "hanz" array[2][2] = "franz" Does that make sense? Anyway, to do this in a loop, you would need to nest them like so: $team = array(); // initialize it for ($g = 1; $g <= 4; $g++) { for ($r = 1; $r <= 4; $r++) { $team[$g][$r] = $your_string_array; } } What this will do is on the first pass, set group 1's array for each rank, then on the next pass, set group 2's array for each rank, etc. Then you can get any team info you want by echoing like so: echo $team[2][3]; // this spits out group 2's rank. You see? Need more info? # Nathan