Re: null coalesce addition assignment operator ??+=

On 19 January 2018 at 16:12, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote: >> On 18.01.2018 at 23:58, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> >>>> I propose even more such operators: >>>> null coalesce addition assignment ??+= (for strings and numbers) >>>> null coalesce subtraction assignment ??-= >>>> null coalesce increment ??++ >>>> null coalesce decrement ??-- >>>> null coalesce multiplication assingment ??*= >>> >>> I think this is taking it too far. If you want language like that, you >>> always have APL :) >> >> Why do we discuss extensions to an operator which has still (after >> nearly two years) not be implemented due to implementation difficulties? >> > Am I the only one who looked at the original post and assumed he was > taking the piss? > Similar to the jokes about spaceship assignment <=>= and > equality/identicality assignment === (not to be confused with > identical non-assign, which is ===) and ====. I can definitely say it was not a joke. I can see myself and others use the ??+= and also ??++, and would have used them in the past, if they had been available. The others, I don't care as much. For me, a good enough conclusion of this conversation would be one of: A: Yeah seems useful, but let's wait (or work) until ??= is implemented and released, and observe how it is being used. B: No one will ever use it, and it would hurt the language.