Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 12:02 AM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote: > This is basically what I have been advocating for a while now already, > somewhat hidden between all the other noise of the "namespace-scoped > declares" thread. The model I would like to follow are Rust editions ( > https://doc.rust-lang.org/edition-guide/editions/index.html). > In PHP > right now, the way to do this technically would be based on a > declare(edition=2020) in every file. I was hoping to make this a > per-package declaration instead, but haven't found the perfect way to do > this right now. > I think it's similar, but not quite the same, at least as far as what I understood from what you were saying on that thread (I just reread it). First, I think it's important we don't only focus on what we're going to change - but also on what we're going to keep. The motivation should not be slow eventual migration from one codebase to another. We would have two, long-term supported codebases - a lot closer to C and C++ than to different editions of a single language. The distance between them would be quite substantial from the get-go - and will likely grow farther as time goes by, similarly to the situation with C and C++. Also - I think that we should do our very best to get this "P++" right the first time, as opposed to iterate on it and release editions that provide a steady stream of change and breakage. Of course - we can add new features and evolve existing ones - but this should be a lot more similar to the mini versions / feature releases we currently have. It's certainly similar in concept, but not quite the same. Zeev