Re: Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy

From: Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 23:08:20 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: Bringing Peace to the Galaxy
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On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 1:25 AM Mark Randall <markyr@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/08/2019 21:17, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > [... and not in the Sith Lord kind of way.] > > Thoughts? > > The idea of PHP being held hostage to eternal backwards compatibility > fills me with absolute dread. > [snip] > If you're not going forward, you're falling behind, and sometimes going > forward requires sacrifice. > > Mark, I'd like to state three things, and ask another: 1. The differences between the internals@ schools of thought aren't limited to just downwards compatibility issues alone - these were highlighted because of the recent short tags discussion, but that's just one aspect out of several - which I mentioned in my message. 2. Different people have different preferences. There's a reason that not everyone is using the same language, or have the same mobile phone or the same car. Something it's not 'forward' or 'backwards' - it's about 'different'. Is C++ better than C? Many would argue that it is, while others will argue that it's not. Both can be correct, it's ultimately not only a matter of objective truths, but also subjective perceptions, preferences and the tasks at hand. 3. Putting your apparent personal bias against backwards compatibility aside - if P++ goes in the directions you're hoping for - towards giving you the goodies on your wish list, why would you care if PHP still existed without these new changes/features? Zeev

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