Re: Using PECL without installing PEAR

> Le 15 nov. 2019 à 16:03, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> a écrit : > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:44 PM Matthieu Napoli <matthieu@mnapoli.fr> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Following a discussion with Nikita, I understood that [installing PEAR > > with PHP is deprecated]( > > > > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101 < > > > > https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/PHP-7.4/UPGRADING#L98-L101>). > > However, installing PEAR is necessary for PECL to work (it uses PEAR). > > > > I started having a look at what could be done to use PECL without PEAR. > > This lead me to the following question: as a first step, would it make > > sense to provide PECL as a self-contained PHAR? > > That way users can download the PHAR and avoid install PEAR. Following > > that we can have a look at trimming the PECL package, but the PHAR would be > > a first step. > > > > Thanks > > > > Matthieu > > > I think that makes sense. The only thing we really want/need from PEAR is > the "pecl" command, and having a single self-contained phar for that would > be much better than requiring a global PEAR installation, and allow us to > change the underlying implementation more easily in the future. > > > Also if there is an interest I can give back some love to Pickle > (https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle) and ensure it works smoothly up to php master or 7.4/7.4+1. > The phar releases support pecl.php.net, github or any git/directory install of extensions. > > Best, > Pierre Hi Pierre, I spent some time on Pickle as well. The thing isn't maintained, the tests do not pass, I had a hard time doing anything. I still tried to fix most of the tests here: https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle/pull/164 but I didn't manage to make the CI green. Removing HHVM support did make the code much cleaner, and I think I can help as well but I am afraid that nobody will merge anything. If you get the project going again that could be great. One main thing that could help is listing what's missing. In other words, I don't know what to do. If Pickle works already and just need a green test suite and a new version, then maybe we can start with that and then advertise it as a viable replacement to PEAR? Matthieu