Re: About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace.

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 20:07, Thomas Nunninger <thomas@nunninger.info> wrote: > Before discussing technical aspects about what changes would be required > and what are the consequences, I'd like to point out some other aspect: > > I'm a white guy. I can't tell women how they should feel about male > wordings, statements, behavior, whatever; I just need to listen and try > to behave in a way that they feel safe. (And of course there are aspects > I can't change.) > > I think the same applies to this topic, and it's important to get a > common understanding of the problem space. (Let's talk about the > solution space afterwards.) > Thomas's post has been ignored by everyone but IMO is the most important in the thread. [HT to Peter Stalman who expressed a similar thought] I am a white man. It is not for me to say what is best for others - how colonial and offensive is that?? So if we want to do this, let's: 1. Ask the black community what they find offensive in PHP 2. Listen 3. Prioritise the responses and judge which are feasible to act on 4. Act > (I'm not sure if we need to raise this questions in a broader context > regarding other groups of people. I don't want to open a can of worms. > But I don't want to forget about other groups.) > We should consider all groups of people, but my opinion is it's too difficult a task to do right now. Peter