Re: [CONCEPT][DISCUSSION] Allow objects to declare emptiness and by extension truthiness

>> Latest version as we zero in on what this is really about: >> https://bit.ly/php-0002 >> <https://bit.ly/php-0002> >> > 1) The 2 places that you have lists of "this thing produces true/false" could likely > stand to be turned into tables to make it clearer, especially when demonstrating that isEmpty() and > __toBool() are effectively opposites of each other so we get a 2-for-1 deal. I appreciate this idea - done. > > 2) Include some less-random examples of real "empty" objects. > I’m having difficulty with this, to be honest. I think there are two reasons for this: 1. I avoid null to the point of going out of my way to make it not happen - including implementing “isEmpty” - simultaneously I’m having a hard time, which could mean it’s a solution looking for a problem (was thinking about a file cabinet with drawers that would accept folders). 2. I have a very specific use case where this would solve a problem for me. It mainly revolves around the ability in PHP to make an object in such a way that it “feels” like an array - and “feels” like a string - and can become an integer - but there’s no way to make the object feel like and be interacted with like a bool. I don’t want my use case to be the only reason a change like this is introduced to PHP - I want to make sure “it’s not just me” - you know?? Re the wiki: I can edit pages now, it doesn’t look like I can create them. There’s another thread I’ve been watching and I think I need more karma to make that a thing. I will continue working on this and if it generates enough pull then maybe I’ll be let in - I’ll also contribute where I can to start earning karma. Updated: https://bit.ly/php-0002 <https://bit.ly/php-0002> Cheers, Josh