Re: The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it?
| From: | Brent Roose | Date: | Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:49:48 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it? | ||
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Doesn't it make the most sense to re-vote the syntax? I'd consider the previous vote to be
invalid given the parsing issues that weren't listed in the RFC.
A re-vote seems the most fair: if the majority still prefers @@, then so be it. Otherwise the syntax
changes once again, before feature-freeze. I suppose the RMs should have a final say in this
descision?
Kind regards
Brent
> On 22 Jul 2020, at 14:46, Benjamin Eberlei <kontakt@beberlei.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:40 PM Deleu <deleugyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Terrible" is the amount of humans having their lives taken by a pandemic.
>> This is at most slightly inconvenient for you. The aggressive tone in this
>> discussion is extremely unnecessary.
>>
>
> After the RFC was voted on for @@, objectively "terrible" (or bad) reasons
> for this patch have been found though, that can only be softened by
> changing token parsing for namespaces.
>
> This is not a subjective opinion.
>
>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:00 PM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know we've voted twice on this already, but are we really sure that
>>> the @@ syntax is a good idea?
>>>
>>> - There are lots of grumbles, both on here, room 11, as well as in the
>>> wider community (https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/hjpu79/it_is/)
>>> - It has the distinct possibility to cause further parsing issues, akin
>>> to what ended up happening with what Nikita is addressing at
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
>>> - There is no "end symbol" to make finding occurences easier.
>>> - It is a syntax *no other language* uses.
>>> - @ is never going to go away, so the possibility of @@ moving to @ is
>>> also 0.
>>>
>>> Please, let's do the sensible and use the Rusty #[...] syntax.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Derick
>>>
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>> Marco Aurélio Deleu
>>