Re: "TryX" idom for Enumerations
| From: | Mike Schinkel | Date: | Tue, 12 Jan 2021 01:09:41 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: "TryX" idom for Enumerations | ||
| References: | 1 2 3 4 5 | Groups: | php.internals |
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> On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 20:09, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mark Randall wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2021 21:27, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>>>> The "a method that begins with try is nullable, so watch out" idiom
>>>>> is present in C# and Rust, but to my knowledge has never existed in PHP. That doesn't make it
>>>>> bad; it actually combines quite well with the null coalesce operator to allow for default values,
>>>>> making a valueOrDefault() method unnecessary.
>
>
>> I have no problem introducing this idiom (or similar). In fact, I welcome it.
>>
>> In userland, the same concept is often achieved with methods like
>>
fromOrNull(), and as Mark points out, the word “try”
>> makes me think
>> the method should throw an exception if it fails. I’m not advocating
>> for xOrNull(), though, since I think that smacks of
>> Hungarian
>> notation, but maybe we can come up with something that is a more
>> PHP-ish name. ;-)
>>
>> “There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation,
>> naming things, and off-by-one errors.” --Phil Karlton
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ben
>
> Do you have a suggestion for a better, more PHP-ish naming convention?
maybeFrom()?
>
> "It's what other languages use and they don't have a problem" is a valid
> argument, but not a slam dunk so alternate naming patterns are on the table.
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
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