Re: [VOTE] Readonly properties

Le jeu. 1 juil. 2021 à 12:23, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi internals, > > I have opened voting on > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/readonly_properties_v2. > The vote closes 2021-07-15. > > See https://externals.io/message/114729 for the discussion > thread on this > proposal. I think a decent tl;dr is that readonly properties as proposed do > not play well with clone-based withers, so some people believe we should > either improve cloning first, or introduce asymmetric property visibility > instead, which does not suffer from this issue. > Hi NIkita, I voted against the proposal because it doesn't work with cloning at all. Cloning is a critical feature of stateful objects, and we should solve it the same version that introduces readonly IMHO. If we figure out that we can't agree on a sensible improved behavior for cloning, we're going to be in a dead-end with readonly. I think we are not in a hurry and that we should wait for the RFC that improves cloning to add readonly. In another thread, you write: It's okay to vote against this if cloning is a deal breaker. In that case > I'll probably either work on cloning before re-proposing this, or pivot to > asymmetric visibility -- it's not my first preference, but it may be the > more pragmatic choice. Cloning is definitely the weak point of this > proposal. > I think this is a strong enough weak point to warrant postponing the decision. Also, this very statement about asymmetric visibility being more pragmatic is a string hint that we need time to explore it at the same time IMHO. Cheers, Nicolas