Re: [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

Chiming in, since it seems like people are suggesting Gitlab and further "exotic" tools. On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:06 PM Rowan Tommins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote: > > I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the > > project and then having to learn about their ticketing system and git > > repository is just unnecessary extra work. > > > In any project above a handful of developers, learning the conventions > and expectations of the community is always going to be far more > complicated than learning how to use the actual tools in question. We > should definitely choose a tool that is *easy to use*, and easy to > authenticate on (but not so easy it fills up with spam, like the current > one), but saying that developers will struggle to use anything other > than the One True Website is frankly insulting to the intelligence of > the average developer. > > The point of using Github (over other tools) is: * the community is already there * the repository is already frikken there * it's about pumping stuff into the issue tracker, nothing new is added * integrated CVE reports that already fit within the ecosystem * 2fa auth requirement for organization members (gitlab has this too, AFAIK, but it's a checkbox to add somewhere) * including pre-existing users in discussions (yes, leading to pings), even those that didn't declare a public mail - no registration and no GDPR to manage on PHP-SRC's end * rich editing of issues, with code fragments from the repo, rather than copy-pasta'd stuff all over the place * cross-linking of PHP sources with other project sources, including backlink references that make bugs and workarounds easier to follow by community members This stuff is not to be under-estimated: going self-hosted means having yet another insular environment, where the PHP-SRC folks are trapped in a bit of a void, and the actual discussions will keep happening on PHP-SRC diffs anyway. Instead of fearing the "One True Website", adopt and plan for disaster, should it become an Evil Corp seeding ground: what is there to be lost, and how hard would it be to recover? Greets, Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/