Re: Please allow an out of readonly properties

From: Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2022 22:55:56 +0000
Subject: Re: Please allow an out of readonly properties
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They refuse to compromise even on documentation issues. I am totally helpless. Not sure what could be done? On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 2:48 PM Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote: > Talk to the designers then: bringing your own political issues up to the > programming language/tooling only makes it worse long-term, for everyone 😛 > > On Sat, 3 Dec 2022, 23:45 Karoly Negyesi, <karoly@negyesi.net> wrote: > >> I do not have the luxury of designing my own system. I am forced to use >> upstream. I can't help it and given the history of private usage and the >> refusal on relaxing them I do not see this improving with the readonly. At >> all. >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 2:42 PM Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Terrible idea: reflection is mostly introspection tooling, and doesn't >>> really bend the rules of the type system, other than crossing scope (it >>> "sees" more). >>> >>> Please consider designing your system to consider the constraints of >>> readonly properties, or design the constraints to fit >>> your system instead. >>> >>> Marco Pivetta >>> >>> https://twitter.com/Ocramius >>> >>> https://ocramius.github.io/ >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 at 23:39, Karoly Negyesi <karoly@negyesi.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> If push comes to shove, private properties can be changed with >>>> reflection. >>>> >>>> Readonly properties can't. >>>> >>>> Please add a readonly toggle to reflection. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Karoly Negyesi >>>> >>>

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