Re: PHP Package for PHP

On Fri, 19 May 2023 at 08:45, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this whole thread can be summarized into a single statement: > > "Let's integrate PSR standards into PHP core and ship those interfaces as > part of the language" > That's one of the angles that's come up, but there are also some other interesting ideas, a lot of which are actually independent of each other, including: - implementing simple core functions in PHP rather than C - using namespaces as a form of versioning - having a default set of includes which can be over-ridden by user code The one recurring theme I would pick up on though is a general optimism about how much we could add, and get right. Call me cynical, but I don't share that optimism. The main reason a lot of the things being discussed don't already exist is not that PHP only accepts contributions in C, or that Composer packages aren't installed by default; it's that nobody has worked out the One True Design. Moving the discussion to this list rather than PHP-FIG, or PHPLeague, or Symfony, etc, won't make that design process any easier. If anything, it will make it harder - the stakes are higher, and the abilities for rework and forking far more restricted. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]