Re: RFC proposal: worker mode primitives for SAPIs

On 5 January 2024 06:55:34 GMT, Robert Landers <landers.robert@gmail.com> wrote: >I already said this, but to reiterate: I, personally, hear what you >are saying and largely agree with you; however, before we can really >have any kind of discussion on concurrent servers, we HAVE to address >the underlying issues that are missing from PHP. In PHP-src So, let's address them... > there are no such things as request objects This is a non-issue. As has been discussed already, it's perfectly fine to have an event-based system where the event details are an associative array, rather than a rich object. > There are no such things as event loops. There are fibers, > but absolutely no std-library i/o functions are using them This is what the bulk of Daniil's email is suggesting a way to improve. >We have a long way to go before those will be real things that we can >have a proper conversation about in the context of php-src. If we keep waiting to have the conversation, it will never happen. And if we start building brand new APIs like infrastructure for worker-mode SAPIs, in ways that are fundamentally incompatible with async, we're just making more work for ourselves when we do get there. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]